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I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/07/2022 04:02 PM
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Here at Pirate's Bight on our last full day I just watched a charter group hook up the Moorings M5000 "Crispy" in the following manner: They disconnected the chain hook from the shackle at the bridle, picked up the mooring pendant (after 4 attempts) and fastened the shackle around the pendant below the eye splice. High fives all around after that. This was right behind us. I paddled over to them and as politely as I could manage asked them if no-one had instructed them how to hook up to a mooring. "We know but we forgot". I helped them attach dock lines. In the process I removed the shackle which was (barely) hand tight. As a Moorings owner, my confidence in the process of vetting charter guests is seriously shaken at the moment. I am going to do what I can to share my concerns with base management when I return tomorrow. 
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/07/2022 07:32 PM
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Somebody did some serious lying on their resume. I have noticed a improvement in mooring techniques the last few years. Still see boats anchoring without a bridal or snubber however. G
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/07/2022 08:15 PM
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Somebody did some serious lying on their resume. G The Amex card doesn't lie.
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/07/2022 08:37 PM
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I have been appalled at what I have witnessed in our six trips the last year. We shake our heads often, both with charter groups from some of the larger fleets and with one of the by the cabin crewed companies. 😳
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/08/2022 06:45 AM
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Its stories like this that make me happy we own a crewed boat. Our first was a bare boat and it got pretty beat up in its first two years. She was lost in Irma and we decided a crewed boat would be run by competent folks and be better looked after. We are in our 4th year. Best decision we ever made (regarding boating). I can see the advantages for sure, but I assume that means you can't just take the boat yourself and give the crew a vacation? I guess I need to be captain :-)
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/08/2022 08:30 AM
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You can take the boat yourself in most crewed fleets. Generally however you are responsible for putting the crew up somewhere during that time. We looked into crewed options before we purchased our boat in early 2021 - we want to sail 2-3 weeks at a time 3-4 times a year and therefore it makes little sense for us (we don’t want crew aboard) as we would be putting the crew up and paying them while using the boat. We are (so far) very happy with TMM and their protocols.
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/08/2022 09:02 AM
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We also like to go 3-4 weeks. I'm afraid just the crew tip would more than double the cost of our entire trip.
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/08/2022 09:09 PM
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I've come to realize that I'm really not out here to "relax". I think it's more like being a sport pilot in that beyond sailing, operating the boat and it's systems and even maintenance is really an essential part of what it makes it fun for me. On this trip I ended up buying a half gallon of metal polish and polishing every bit of exterior and interior chrome on the boat. Every Davit, stanchion, grab rail, backing plate, pulpit, helm seat and bimini support, interior galley and head fixture, etc. Next trip I'm planning to bring a Makita and polish out the exterior fiberglass and deck-brite the non-skid.
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/09/2022 08:00 AM
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Depending on the age of your boat TMM probably won’t be interested. I think they prefer to bring new boats into the fleet. It doesn’t however hurt to check with them as they might have a hole in their fleet that your boat fits into. You might consider brokering your boat and rolling into a new boat as at the moment used charter boats are commanding very strong resale.
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/09/2022 08:52 AM
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Thanks George. Good info. Does TMM do bareboat and crewed? TMM does just bareboat, though they can arrange crew for clients is they are looking for that. Great people at TMM - highly recommended (my boat is there, so I might be a little biased - but they are all like family now). Sent you a PM. Good luck! -Peter
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Re: I'm a bit alarmed by what I just witnessed...
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05/09/2022 11:24 AM
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Perfect place for tinkering...much better than tinkering on my boat on the Potomac River
Yes, I did not find it a hardship. An hour or two in the morning sun, like exercise.
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