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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
[Re: TJTrippe]
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01/11/2024 10:02 AM
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As of now, nothing going on. Cedric still maintains the beach and the Perch is there. The ruins of the resort are still there. At this point, I have very little confidence that it will ever rise again.
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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01/11/2024 05:50 PM
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Hello all , Just got back on the 8th . I don't want to add to the rumor Mill . But I was talking to someone who said they talked to Cedice A few days ago . They asked him when they were , at lest going To tear down the buildings. And his response was . They did not want them to tear anything down . Because they felt the French government would take The land. Take that for what it's worth ! ( not much ) I do feel the posters frustration , why does this have to be a big secret. Just let everyone know what's going on . Then we can all move on With our lives .
If your motto is ; If at first you don't succeed...... Maybe it would be best not to try sky diving !
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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Jeff--my opinion is that anyone who doesn't have a direct financial interest in Club O should 'move on' regardless, other than to use the beach for nude use, as long as it lasts.
Carol Hill
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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01/15/2024 07:59 AM
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i wish they would just clean it up and a simple beach with a nice place to eat... the debris has got to go.... do you agree?
People ask me why St Martin I say the best food the best beaches. Two different experiences on the same island
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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01/16/2024 10:24 AM
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One of my favorite things to do is walk end to end. We were there oct/nov many times on Orient . Not only does it look really bad, but the smell is so bad, like a clogged sewer towards the end! Besides and you are right. It just looks so bad with all that ugly graffiti too!! I wonder if anyone thought of just dropping a towel in front of the old Palms beach that is now completely leveled. There's no one down there most days!!
Sand Gravity, got to love it!
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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01/20/2024 10:00 AM
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JDK--Well said.
While I am not sure, I think that the organization renting out the units was sort of the equivalent of a homeowner's association. Anyone that has any experience with HOA's knows that they are difficult animals to wrangle, even in the best of times. Those who want a statement from "Club Orient" are assuming that someone is actually in CHARGE of the organization at this point, who even has the authority to make a pronouncement on behalf of "Club Orient". My feeling is that is 'assuming facts not in evidence'. There is also the underlying issue of the ownership of the land, which, as far as I know, has still never been cleared up.
Let's be clear here--the people who lost the most are the owners of the individual units. They put hundreds of thousands of dollars into purchasing their units, as well as their blood, sweat and tears. Those who stayed there over the years paid their money and they received good value for their money. The homeowners are the victims in this situation, not the renters.
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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Please correct me if I am wrong . But it was my understanding that not all the building units were privately owned . I was under the presumption that Club O also owned some units .
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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Very good Carol ......... You read between the lines . I have to get up pretty early to get one on you . LOL
Jeff_C
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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02/03/2024 05:09 PM
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Jeff--I'm not certain either. I think when the Brinks still owned it at the end of when THEY were involved, they owned part of the units and private individuals owned the rest. I think just prior to Irma, they were all privately owned.
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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02/03/2024 08:11 PM
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I would like to add to the conversation. We all love(d) Club O. If not for Club O my wife and I would have never returned to SXM after we stopped there on a Cruise in 1998. It was just a magical place, if I may use that term. We were there several times after that, always staying at Club O, the last time during Hurricane Gonzalo that cause lots of damage to the Island. Club O beachfront suites were all evacuated to higher ground due to the concern of high storm surge, but we were staying in 34, 35, or 36 (don't remember), which when standing on the road in front of it looked a lot lower than the beachfront suites. We were told to go inside, lock the doors and don't come out until the storm had passed. We did, and after going through a few Hurricanes in New Orleans, thought Gonzalo was quite a major storm, especially halfway through when everything was shaking. After the storm, we found Tiko Tiko was pushed up on shore next to Papagayo. We were booked to sail it that day, and tried to let Philipe know that he could keep the money we paid in advance so that he could start his recovery. We ended up getting an unexpected refund a month later so apparently we didn't make our wishes known to Philipe. As I said we haven't been back since then, but we too feel the loss of Club O. We didn't have any skin in the game, as we only spent a week there every year. I can't imagine how the owner's and employees of the place feel about their total loss and know there will never be a recovery. Along with the residents of the island who also have lost everything. We lost everything in Katrina, and ended up moving to a new area, and it was very tough to start over. When I see these threads come up on TTOL, I always open them first, hoping there is news of rebuilding and reopening, but I doubt I will ever see that one. We keep hoping, just as all of you do that one day it will be.
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Re: Club Orient - What is going on?
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02/04/2024 03:05 PM
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We stayed at club O many times over 30 years and enjoyed it very much, We now stay in the village. Same island, same people, same beach. We'll return for as long as we can. We're waiting for Marrch ! Sometimes in life you just have too move on.
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