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Re: First time Casino visit [Re: 2fingers] #53469
05/08/2015 04:28 PM
05/08/2015 04:28 PM
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When you say constant, are the cards shuffled for each hand and during the table deal?

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Re: First time Casino visit [Re: 2fingers] #53470
05/08/2015 04:29 PM
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Correct, my wife was on the management team for years that owned three casinos on the island. Our close friend is the Managing Director of three others, we have had long talks about the BlackJack odds and believe me, they know their games better than the bettor. They have all gone to 5 or 6 deck shuffling shoes. Only RainMan could figure out of the deck was heavy or not.

Re: First time Casino visit [Re: SXMScubaman] #53471
05/08/2015 04:39 PM
05/08/2015 04:39 PM
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a little right of center
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Cards are constantly shuffled, or when the dealer clears up a hand and places those cards in the machine, they are shuffled back in. Not sure which. Either way, at best, when you are dealt a new hand, it is essentially a freshly shuffled 4 (or 5 deck). Every time. Every hand. They never have to stop action to shuffle, there is no "cut" card (as the shoe never ends). Casino's love them. Real players hate them. I won't play with them. Evil !


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Re: First time Casino visit [Re: 2fingers] #53472
05/08/2015 05:45 PM
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Auburn, WA
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Looks like I won't be playing blackjack on island anymore.

Re: First time Casino visit [Re: SXMScubaman] #53473
05/08/2015 08:10 PM
05/08/2015 08:10 PM
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I need to jump in here. If you don't count cards and alter your bets(or play) with the count, it doesn't matter whether they use constant shuffle machines or not. Your expected value is the same as if the house shuffles deep into the deck.

Re: First time Casino visit [Re: cruzer] #53474
05/08/2015 09:31 PM
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Atlantis (Starz) never had shuffling machines, and there are always some $5 tables. That's one of the reasons it's our favorite.

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