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Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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06/07/2015 02:52 PM
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There is a post on the BVI Community Page on FB about the possibility of a MIA-EIS flight on a Bombardier Q400 starting. It looks like it stops in Turks/Caicos then Tortola. Targeting $350 RT. 2 flights daily Nov-April, then 3 flights weekly May-Oct proposed. Anyone heard about this or who is testing this possibility?
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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06/07/2015 04:41 PM
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Isn't the temp at EIS pretty much always above 65?
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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It is all speculation right now but Giles Cadman, who is working on the idea has the resoures to get it started.
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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I took a look at the performance of the aircraft using a 3700 foot runway with no departure obstructions. Anything above 65 for a 480 mile flt looked like it would be load restricted, thats where the 65 came from. Every degree above that increases the restriction. This would only apply out of EIS as it is the airport with the short runway. I am not sure however if the departure path is considered obstacle free. It's probable however that they plan reduced loads out of EIS and filling the aircraft up at the intermediate stop. A stop raises costs substantially so I wonder what their break even price would really be. I would like to see the BVI government focus on the near term and see about attracting quality service from SJU to EIS with larger aircraft. Rebating half the current 40 dollar per passenger fee at EIS as a subsidy might encourage additional flights.
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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GeorgeC1 said: I took a look at the performance of the aircraft using a 3700 foot runway with no departure obstructions. Anything above 65 for a 480 mile flt looked like it would be load restricted, thats where the 65 came from. Every degree above that increases the restriction. This would only apply out of EIS as it is the airport with the short runway. I am not sure however if the departure path is considered obstacle free. It's probable however that they plan reduced loads out of EIS and filling the aircraft up at the intermediate stop. A stop raises costs substantially so I wonder what their break even price would really be. I would like to see the BVI government focus on the near term and see about attracting quality service from SJU to EIS with larger aircraft. Rebating half the current 40 dollar per passenger fee at EIS as a subsidy might encourage additional flights. I looked at the specs for the new bombardier CS100 . Could this aircraft service EIS from Miami or New York with a small runway extension.
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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I was just trying to figure out why it cost so much to fly into EIS so I was looking at all the taxes and fees involved in flying round trip into EIS from either SJU or MIA. Facilities charges, segment fee, INS, TSA, International depature/arrival and EIS development fee and not counting facility and landing fees at SJU or the T&Cs come to a little over $120 a seat.
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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Cadman is into a bunch of things ranging from wine speculation to real estate. One of the few BVI based international corporate structures who actually lives in the BVI.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. - Mark Twain
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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The study I did last year on the ferry system came up with a total investment of about $15 mil would replace all the boats with 6 new 100 passenger fast ferries and provide service matching the airline schedules plus commuter demand. The problem with my plan was that it would require cooperation bettween the 3 ferry companies and government oversight. Neither of which is practical.
There was a plan at one time to build a BVI ferry terminal in Lindbergh Bay with walking acccess to STT but the taxi drivers shot it down.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. - Mark Twain
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Re: Miami-Tortola Bombardier Q400
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GlennA said: Cadman is into a bunch of things ranging from wine speculation to real estate. One of the few BVI based international corporate structures who actually lives in the BVI. Not sure how legit Mr. Cadman's business ventures are. Google "Venulum" (his company), and make your own decision. But I do love Origin.
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