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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: RonDon]
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10/25/2015 08:03 AM
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RonDon said: One should have their passport with them at all times. I carry copies, and one credit card. The rest and originals are in the safe. Also a phone.
Last edited by BeachKitten; 10/25/2015 08:04 AM.
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: Cathyg]
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10/25/2015 09:51 AM
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Cathy--we haven't been on a cruise for 3 years now, but they never USED to take your passport, on cruises in the Caribbean anyway. They do that now?
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: DICKG]
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10/25/2015 10:42 AM
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Good post, Dickg,
And now would be a perfect time to put this whole thing to bed. Let the people of the island deal with their political situations and those of us who weren't there and personally involved BACK OFF and MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: EdB]
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10/25/2015 10:56 AM
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EdB said: I guess we as Americans are lucky that we didn't have ''tourists'' on our soil during the Revolutionary War. God Forbid if a tourist is inconvenienced over the locals problems with government. Also, I guess it would've been total chaos in Washington DC during the Civil Rights movement, the protests against the Vietnam War etc....since maybe some tourists would've been inconvenienced. I sure am glad that this never happened here in the USA (said VERY sarcastically). GET OVER IT PEOPLE...WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEIR RIGHT!!!!!!!! AND ......THEY WON!!!!!!!!
I still can't believe how narrow minded and self centered some people here are...... and......the people bitching weren't even there on the island at the time. Um, Ed, I find that you are being the one that is a bit narrow minded here. I wasn't on St Martin, I wasn't inconvenienced, I recognize the French law that allows some civil disobedience, and I am happy that the local residents have gotten their elected government to listen to them. That said, your US analogies are moot as the US economy isn't tourist based. And the tourist voices I have seen here have only been explaining how the protest affected them on their vacation. Inconvenience is in the eye of the inconvenienced and certainly nothing wrong with saying "I wish that wouldn't have happened" or "I was frightened when the road block caused my bus to detour down a dark uninhabited dirt road". None of the comments I read, save the silly freedom fries, seemed inappropriate or uncaring. I didn't see anyone say "simple, provincial people and their road blocks, don't they know I am important". They were just people saying that they didn't like it. An opinion they have every right to. And if a legal act of civil disobedience causes someone to say that it inconvenienced them enough to want to seek a different place to spend their economy-supporting tourist dollars next year, they should have the right to say so. And locals should listen to the unfortunate result of their actions as well as celebrate the successful results. Some tourists WERE inconvenienced and frightened and may well change their travel plans. And shouldn't be pilloried for saying just that. Some of the"pro" roadblock people here are not seeing the forest for the trees.
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: CptCook]
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10/25/2015 11:28 AM
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I appreciate all the reasoned and thoughtful responses to this incident. The rest....
I will say this. I support the protests and I also see the forest thru the trees and understand that some tourists were scared, ticked, may not come back, may give bad reviews. That's the risk you take, and I think it was worth it. If it helps the overall governance, economy, and well being of ALL of French st Martin, not just those coming from France, then that will be a benefit for tourists in the long run. So I'm down for some short term pain for some long term gain.
I was born and raised in the states, but my entire family is from SXM and my rents live on the French side. So I have a unique perspective on all things related to the rock.
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: Barbara]
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10/25/2015 11:52 AM
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Just my $0.02 worth. How long do think the cruise industry will tolerate his kind of behavior? I can and do understand the frustration the French side folks must be enduring, but from a business perspective, I would have to consider dropping SXM as a port of call if this continues.
Now you and I both understand that without the cruise industry, and land vacationing tourist, SXM would be in even worse shape than it is now.
Talk about shooting one's sell in the foot...
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: soualigacapt]
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10/25/2015 11:58 AM
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soualigacapt said: It's not a vacation without a life threatening experience! Jeez, louise, Bob, I think you're a lot more adventurous vacationer than I am!!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> I have to assume that's a joke!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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10/25/2015 11:58 AM
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we cruise at least twice a year, and have since 2000. This year in April when we were in SXM the ship DID NOT hold our passports. Maybe if you are not a U.S. citizen - I don't know. But from experience they NEVER have held ours.
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: CptCook]
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10/25/2015 12:01 PM
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The silly "freedom fries" comment was meant to be just that, silly. The comment followed an equally silly comment about the dislike of the French. Nothing like mocking a stupid stereotype.
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: Cathyg]
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10/25/2015 12:19 PM
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We have enjoyed several cruises and we have never had to give our passports to the cruise line.Some people may have to give them over for a specific reason, but most people do not. You do not need them to leave the ship and you are warned to leave them in the safe in your room. You only need your cruise card for EVERYTHING!
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: moxie]
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10/25/2015 01:00 PM
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Did you ever ask why you had to do so? Perhaps it is the policy of a particular cruise line. I definitely would ask the reason for having to do this although we have travelled on different cruise lines and never had to give over our passports. I would not be happy about ever having to do this as it is not the norm.
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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10/25/2015 02:18 PM
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Carol_Hill said:soualigacapt said: It's not a vacation without a life threatening experience! Jeez, louise, Bob, I think you're a lot more adventurous vacationer than I am!!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> I have to assume that's a joke!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> Year before last, 8 days in a raft down the Grand Canyon with no easy way out in an emergency. This year 8 day horse pack trip in Wyoming wilderness with no easy way out. See Photo: This was a life threatening experience! I love it! I hope this works. Please repair if not
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: soualigacapt]
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10/25/2015 02:55 PM
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soualigacapt said:Tell me how you got the photo to show up please The first time you posted it there was a few links in the text....when I followed one of them I got to your picasa page with the photo. I then Clicked and dragged the image into the address bar (an ulternate way would be to right click on the image and copy image location) to get a link to the actual photo file. The trick to posting on the forum is that the link to the photo MUST have a .jpg, .jpeg, .gif, .png at the end. So when I got the image to show up with only the picture and the address ended in .jpg...I copied that address and then used the Image button in my reply. It sounds complicated the way I'm describing it but the whole thing was done in 10 seconds or so.
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Re: Road blocks from cruise pax perspective
[Re: soualigacapt]
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10/25/2015 04:43 PM
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I was in the travel industry for over 30-years. stopped counting cruises after 50.
Only in the Med has a cruise line held our USA passports. NEVER in the Carib.
Of course if on a cruise line purchased shore ex, the ship would never leave passengers on shore unless the ship was in danger by remaining at the pier. In the case of local unrest, the ship's officers would be in contact with local authorities via the local agent; Exactly why they have such arrangements.
This situation was disconcerting, certainly. Not life threatening. Good story to tell post cruise.
JPH I spent my money on booze, broads, and boats...the rest I wasted.
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