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Total ban of umbrellas in Grand Case??
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12/01/2015 11:20 AM
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The Daily Herald seems to be having some issues today and sometimes you can get to it and sometimes not. Daily Herald story This seems to say it is a COMPLETE ban on umbrellas and chairs.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/01/2015 12:05 PM
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They are punishing everyone with beach chairs because of the stupidity and disrespect of one business owner. Such a shame! Hope they will reconcile this in a proper manner so everyone can enjoy this nice beach.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/01/2015 02:50 PM
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Again, I really don't know exactly what the ordinance is supposed to say. This story seems to say that they are in fact banning ALL umbrellas and chairs, but at the time it was announced, supposedly it was only that they can't block the entire beach down to the water line with chairs and umbrellas.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/02/2015 01:48 PM
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A TOTAL ban? As when this thing was first announced, some members who speak French said that they read the original proclamation and said that the ban was ONLY to not totally block the beach and that chairs and umbrellas would still be allowed, so long as there was room to walk the beach. See this thread
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/02/2015 04:24 PM
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Again, I had asked that question to begin with, what the ban on nudity referred to. It appears that, like the displaced restaurants on Orient, that the proprietors of businesses on the beach in Grand Case, are totally in the dark as to what the government is doing.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/02/2015 10:32 PM
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Yes. Rainbow had dancing and music on the beach recently until 2:30 A.M. It is this type of behavior that is causing the problems.... NOT the umbrellas on the beach! The local people and even the visitors staying in Grand Case don't appreciate this noise.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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Sooo, everyone will have to apply for a new permit for chairs and umbrellas on the beach, it sounds? Sounds very unfair to those who are already in business, and depend on that income.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/09/2015 03:05 AM
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Looks like the first official warning has been handed over to Love Residence on Grand Case Beach. Link The letter and article are in french so I will give a summarized translation. LETTER It has been observed that you are occupying a portion of the public domain of the beach of Grand Case by the presence of tables, chairs, loungers, parasols or other equipment. In accordance with articles 1 and 2 it is forbidden to occupy the public domain without authorisation. In addition, the excutive council, assembled on November 17th decided on the prohibition of commercial occupation of the public domain. To be precise, no (AOT) Temporary Occupation Authorisation will therefore be issued for this type of occupancy. To correct the situation you are invited to remove your belongings from the public domain within one week from the reception of this letter. If you do not comply you expose yourself to procedures regulated by laws R116.2, L116.2,R442.2 and L442.8 ARTICLE Today the tourist establishments get the first warnings: The collectivity just transmitted a letter to the "Love Residence" establishment advising it of the irregularity of the situation for "public domain occupation withoiut authorisation". The collectivity specifies that no AOT will be issued to the establishment. A non-respect of this decision exposes the occupant to a fifth class fine of 1500 Euros. The ban applies to tables, chairs, loungers, paralsos and also watersports.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/10/2015 01:49 PM
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Unfortunately, I cannot find it in the online version, but a story in today's Daily Herald states that the ban is total and permanent, and restaurants/etc/ will have 7 days to remove their chairs and umbrellas, or face fines. Curious how the vote came about, according to the story. The Executive Council consists of 7 members, only ONE of which, President Aline Hanson, voted in favor of the ruling, with FIVE abstentions and one person absent. That seems so odd to me.
So, anyone on island, if you want to go to the beach in Grand Case, do it NOW..
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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Either way, seems kind of sketchy to me. I honestly don't understand what they are doing and why they are taking these actions which at least some residents (and in this case, many tourists) will object to.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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No, this particular ordinance only applies to Grand Case, but goodness knows what the government has in store for the rest of the french side.. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/12/2015 01:23 PM
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This is shocking! We're planning on a week-long stay at Le Petit in April. I sure hope they get this straightened out before then. I can't imagine not being able to lounge on the beach in front of the hotel. And this is horrible news for Calmos!
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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I don't know, it just doesn't make any sense, places like LePetit and Calmos, not causing problems for anyone, that have been there forever.. Doesn't make any sense..
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/13/2015 07:18 AM
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rmg49 said: Will this also include Grand Case Beach Club? I contacted them but haven't heard anything yet; however, the club doesn't usually set up on Grand Case Beach but on the side called Petite Plague. On the Grand Case Beach side the loungers are usually on the grass.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/18/2015 03:25 PM
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Has there been any new info on this topic? I can't imagine the beachfront businesses standing for this.
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/18/2015 03:43 PM
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I guess it is a done deal. The beach vendors were supposed to have a week to comply or face fines and I think the week is up. I really don't know if it applies to hotels also or not..
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Re: Umbrella ordinance in Grand Case questioned
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12/20/2015 06:01 PM
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jfaircloth said: This is shocking! We're planning on a week-long stay at Le Petit in April. I sure hope they get this straightened out before then. I can't imagine not being able to lounge on the beach in front of the hotel. And this is horrible news for Calmos! Perhaps the hotel can put a couple of chairs in each room and then the people bring them out when they wish to sit on the beach? Or rent from Pack Light.
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