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Sale of our boat
#107543
09/15/2016 04:10 PM
09/15/2016 04:10 PM
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,199 Devon, UK
salica
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After 5 months of negotiations, I am delighted to report that we have completed the sale of our boat. The time scale has been so protracted because she has been in charter and some kind person managed to ground her in the last year or so, without reporting the incident. This has cost us dearly, both financially and mentally and I truly hope that the person who did this damage has a guilt complex, though I fear not. Anyway, time to move forward. We have had some super holidays onboard and other than the past few months, have no regrets. For almost twelve years we have enjoyed BVI and love all that the islands have to offer. A huge thank you to all who have come our way during that time. We have had a fantastic time and made some good friends, many of whom we will miss tremendously. I am going to sign off, I think, to TTOL, which has given me great daily interest. No doubt we shall return to BVI as we have been so happy here in the past. But for now, at least, au revoir.
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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09/16/2016 10:51 AM
09/16/2016 10:51 AM
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Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts
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I can understand charter companies not putting a diver in the water after each trip, but these days, a lot could be seen with a go pro on a long pole.. Certainly obvious damage anyway that might then warrant a dive.. Not sure why more don't do that.
Matt
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: StormJib]
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09/16/2016 12:06 PM
09/16/2016 12:06 PM
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StormJib said: How did you managed to put this timeline and root cause together?
"ground her in the last year or so, without reporting the incident."
Did insurance deny coverage? It's not hard. As an owner, we always dive and check the keels on the first day there. If you see chunks gouged out of the keel's leading edge, then you know that someone "grounded her in the last year or so without reporting the incident." We were with the same charter company as Salica and they did not routinely dive the bottoms. Most companies don't, but a lot of charterers damage boats and never report it, since they figure the charter company won't find it for a while and won't know which charter party did the damage. We often found gouges in the leading edge of one of our keels (catamaran). Burned me up every time but not much we could do about it! We would have to pay for the repair when it was hauled for painting, and it was usually below the insurance deductible so not worth reporting.
Rob
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: SeaSeaRider]
#107552
09/16/2016 01:19 PM
09/16/2016 01:19 PM
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maytrix
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With all the technology available today, seems it should be possible to have something to detect a grounding..
Matt
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: kneafseym]
#107556
09/16/2016 08:21 PM
09/16/2016 08:21 PM
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kneafseym said: In the post charter briefing, Horizon would ask, "how many times did you run aground?". I never asked to see if that casual question brought out the truth or not. I don't think anyone actually dives bottoms due to the extra expense on turnarounds. Diving bottoms at Nanny Cay is not an exciting option for a diver. Many do! Depends on the culture. Some shops want to shift the cost of any damages as close to the customer doing the damage. Others are more marketing oriented get them in get them out passing off damage cost across all the customers. I have watched divers in the water as soon as boats hit the dock. I have heard others asking kids..."Did Dad run aground?". I had one operator put a young female aboard to count every bowl and fork. I did pay for one bowl and one spoon. Rent a car at the airport most never look up when you return the car. Enterprise inspects every inch 360.
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: GeorgeC1]
#107561
09/17/2016 08:45 AM
09/17/2016 08:45 AM
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GeorgeC1 said: The Moorings also dives the bottoms. Really? I've never seen that. It is certainly not something they do after every charter.
Matt
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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09/17/2016 10:39 AM
09/17/2016 10:39 AM
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Horizon does have a diver check the boat after each charter. I know as I paid the bill.
Henryv
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: warren460]
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09/17/2016 11:02 AM
09/17/2016 11:02 AM
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warren460 said: TMM dives the bottom after every charter May be the case but spent a lot of time at the TMM base when had our boat there for 9 years and never witnessed it. The only times I was not there was mid to late afternoon, but never saw it happen in early morning to mid day. Perhaps they put someone in water late afternoon to check. I am sure they do when suspect a problem. They do a good job overall.
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: henryv]
#107565
09/17/2016 05:29 PM
09/17/2016 05:29 PM
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Posts: 10,213 GJ, CO S/V Long Overdue
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henryv said: Horizon does have a diver check the boat after each charter. I know as I paid the bill. I know some owners with Horizon who would vigorously disagree with you. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Sale of our boat
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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09/17/2016 05:43 PM
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GeorgeC1 said: They are supposed to be diving every bottom before it goes out on the next charter. They were diving multiple boats every time I was down this year. Interesting.. I've never seen this and certainly never saw anything in the contract saying this was something they did either.
Matt
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