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Re: Bareboat Sailing Course
[Re: socalnewf]
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01/15/2017 01:04 PM
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Posts: 70 Nixa, Missouri
philthepilot
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I did my live aboard course with Rob Swain in Tortola. I felt it was a great course and have sailed the BVI every year for the past 10 years since the course. Taking the course in the BVI worked out for me because on my first charter, I had already been to most of the places with Rob. This made the first time out on my own much easier. Also, Rob anchors almost every night, so you get a lots of practice anchoring and you'll spend the night on a hook several times that week. I'm sure there are a lot of good schools out there, but if I had to do it over again I would use Rob Swain again and would do it in Tortola.
Phil Nixa, Mo.
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Re: Bareboat Sailing Course
[Re: philthepilot]
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01/15/2017 03:47 PM
01/15/2017 03:47 PM
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MrMGtd
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I would highly suggest you consider what your near and long term bareboat sailing interests and destinations are before choosing a particular certification (ASA, US SAiling, ...). If you are intending to do anything in Europe, like Croatia, Greece, etc they are becoming increasingly more strict on enforcing the EU sailing (and power) requirements. Requiring the "International Certificate of Competence". Also commonly referred to the major cert program "RYA Certificates of Competence". We were able to make an equivalency argument/documentation for my US Sailing (or ASA) certificates (via the Article 4 Paragraph 3 of The Ordinance on Boats and Yachts) for the Greek Ionian Sea area last year but it can be highly charter company specific as to what they'll accept. Sailing from Croatia from what I understand is getting extremely strict about needing the ICC. There is more emphasis on VHF skills, hands on demonstration of boats skills. In short DO NOT assume that the Bareboat ASA 101-104 certs will accepted in Europe even if they say "bareboat". And do not rely on ASA or US Sailing saying they'll issue an ICC equivalent in the form of an "International Proficiency Certificate (IPC)". That IS NOT the same as the ICC. Some charters/countries will/may accept it and others will/may not. CHECK!! Some charters will also let you do a local 1-day hands on "sea trial" course to certify you from an ASA104 to an ICC. The other thing is finding an ICC cert program in the States is hard to find. Usually will have to go to someplace like Miami, Annapolis, Newport, Tortola, Bahamas. NauticEd is a big ICC cert program worldwide using the RYA (British Royal Yachting Association) courses. May be more of a hassle, cost a bit more but could save you time, money down the road. Randy
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Re: Bareboat Sailing Course
[Re: CottageGirl]
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01/15/2017 06:07 PM
01/15/2017 06:07 PM
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Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts
maytrix
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I can 2nd Rob Swain Sailing School. We now have our boat with them, but we took a course with Rob in Newport RI a few years ago with friends.
It is one of the reasons I reached out to them when we were looking at places to put our boat.
Matt
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Re: Bareboat Sailing Course
[Re: Kryssa]
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01/16/2017 07:40 AM
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Posts: 1,277 Saint Thomas, USVI
CaptainJay
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First of to answer the OP questions. Take the courses where it is easiest for you. I also would take into account where you plan to sail. Learning on the Chesapeake for example will be a lot different than learning down here. Different conditions and different navigation issues, hazards, water depth, visibility wind speed etc. There are lots of good options for this both in the US and down here. There are several good operations being run. Black Rock Sailing teaches on our boat at CYOA in the winter. I have sent people to Swain on Tortola and gotten good feed back. Virgin Islands Sailing school in Red Hook has gotten generally good reviews. One of their Instructors also works for us part time as a captain. Tortola Sailing School also seems to be getting good reviews. As for the derail part of this thread the International Certificate of Competency. I went through this the year before last to do a Charter in Croatia. Despite having a US Coast Guard Masters I had to get one. If you have taken the necessary courses from ASA you can apply directly to ASA for a fee and they will issue the Certificate. International Profficiency ASA Jay
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