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Re: Dump continues to burn
[Re: BGH]
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03/24/2017 08:46 AM
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BGH said: the gov't continues to fail its residents and visitors . Imagine that! Been going on for years and new governments produce the same results on the island.
J.D.
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 09:18 AM
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this is a mess that cannot be resolved overnight. Sounds like it just started yesterday <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 09:36 AM
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Not overreacting IMHO. The politicians are out for their best interest it seems and the same problems get kicked down the road. I had a conversation with a long-time island resident (local) a couple of weeks ago. He has basically given up on the Dutch side political system and he personally thinks the French side is worse. He cited the Marigot Marina area as an example, along with the dump situation.
J.D.
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 10:59 AM
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Just relaying his opinion. He used to follow the politics a lot but has given up. He was born on the Dutch side, lives on the French side and has serious concerns.
J.D.
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 01:32 PM
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If I lived on the island of St. Martin (as a whole....) I'd have serious concerns, too, regardless of which side. The acrid aroma of burning trash is terrible and I doubt it knows the borders and that its supposed to stay on the side where its created, so really, no one is immune from its effects even if its primarily a Dutch side concern.
Years ago we had a local dump in the next town that kept catching on fire and it had nothing to do with dump dwellers or scavengers but with the methane gases that built up underground and were easily combustible, igniting sometimes into raging infernos creating disgusting and health effecting fumes. For the island Fathers to make the innocuous statements about keeping windows closed is ludicrous.
It's not like this is a new problem to the island and every new administration (administrator) acts like they never heard of the problem before. And they all opt for studying the situation - the time for studying is done. It's time they applied some of those studies and actively do something for ALL the people of the island.
I know government gives a lot of money from their coffers for 'fun' things like Christmas decorations, regatta funding, Carnival funding and lots of other things islanders enjoy but c'mon peeps, this is a health issue and before monies are spent on any of these fun items, health and safety matters such as these need to be seriously addressed. Perhaps instead of these donations, or heaven forbid - the raises for government officials, and don't forget the celebratory galas and off island travels in search of more revenues and potential visitors, they should take this problem seriously and DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE ISLAND regardless of which side you call home and regardless of whether you're a resident or a visitor since all can be so adversely effected by this on-going health problem.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/smashpc.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/smashpc.gif" alt="" />
Last edited by pat; 03/24/2017 01:55 PM.
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pat
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 06:11 PM
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You are far better off in Simpson Bay than you are at Divi. Divi is close to town where the dump is located. Simpson Bay is at least over the hill and the hill itself does block most of the fumes. Better still, Maho and the Cupecoy areas are even further away. Your other option is Oyster Pond since the prevailing winds are from the east and Oyster Pond will be upwind from the dump fires.
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 06:59 PM
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Two weeks ago it was very visible from the airport but it was not creating much of a problem. It all depends on the wind direction, your sensitivity and the weather. Many locals (especially young children) were impacted.
J.D.
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 07:18 PM
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That is a long time away. I would still plan my visit and see what is happening when you get to the island. Winds, rain and weather can change and what is happening today will likely not be what is happening a week from today.
J.D.
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Re: Dump continues to burn
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03/24/2017 09:11 PM
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Kabs,
I'm a 'what iffer' but if I were you and wanted to stay with my friends I'd skip the what ifs and book it, Danno.
There's no guarantee there will be dump fires during your stay, although given the dumps track record there is the likelihood there might be, but there's no certainty of the direction of the winds ergo the acrid odors.
We stay in the Mullet/Cupecoy area and we smelled it all the way over there for a few days on one of our trips but the fire had been burning the whole week before and we hadn't known it until that morning.
If you're truly concerned from a health standpoint you might want to bring a surgical mask or else pick another island. Not trying to be facetious but there's just no way to know..... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Respectfully,
pat
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