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Re: Boatyball
[Re: FRANKIE2]
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11/23/2018 10:07 PM
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$35. How are you to know if a mooring has been reserved? Is someone going to go out and put a "RESERVED" card on the mooring? I can imagine some fireworks. $35 is the total cost, so an extra $5.
Last edited by FRANKIE2; 11/23/2018 10:09 PM.
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Re: Boatyball
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11/24/2018 08:05 AM
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How much of a premium? or is it a cost savings to Moor Secure not having to have a dingy collect fee? Monitoring could easily be by video monitoring.
Agree there may be some confusion by someone picking up "reserved" ball and when the "rightful" boat comes along, how will it be settled? (and crew may be gone from boat).
Will follow closely. A while back Moor Secure installed the moorings to belongers who had the seabed rights and they maintained them. I’m curious if it’s the same today. Possibly they prefer the new system due to haveing different mooring companies in some anchorage’s and eliminate the possibility of a competitor collecting the fee on one of theirs.
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Re: Boatyball
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#176244
11/24/2018 06:00 PM
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Something like this has been my dream for several years. The concept is great...the execution may be challenging. I will support anything that reduces worry about full mooring fields while trying to enjoy more of the BVI. I look forward to learning more.
Douglas E. Linton
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Re: Boatyball
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#176246
11/24/2018 06:34 PM
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I keep looking for an April first dateline!
Let’s hope this is just a couple of web pages posted in jest.
JPH I spent my money on booze, broads, and boats...the rest I wasted.
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Re: Boatyball
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11/25/2018 11:48 AM
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I doubt there will be "bay monitors". Follow the money [- it doens't add up. If they charge $35 for this service and the first come first served balls are $30 and all the moorings are full there is simply not enough delta to add the cost/time/hassle of a "bay monitor" to collect maybe fifty bucks. So either the cost has to increase significantly or most if not all of the moorings have to use the new system. In any case I'm certain you will be on your own to try to enforce your reservation.
Life's short - sail more!
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Re: Boatyball
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11/25/2018 11:50 AM
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One small twist I would make to this reservation system. If you're not on the ball by an hour before sunset you forfeit your reservation and your fee.
Last edited by agrimsrud; 11/25/2018 11:52 AM.
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Re: Boatyball
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11/25/2018 08:06 PM
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Anchoring outside the mooring field at Cooper is deep water and the charter boats don’t give you enough line. Indeed - Cooper is also largely pretty inappropriate for Anchoring anyway given the bottom grass. I saw a charter monohull drag halfway across the mouth of the bay a year or 2 back, no-one on board, and had to standby in the dinghy with a tow line waiting for the skipper to return from his snorkel trip!
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Re: Boatyball
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11/25/2018 08:50 PM
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The one issue that has not been addressed is what happens if a reserved ball has no reservation? Is there going to be some way to release it for general first come, first served use?
KF Quinn MD That one seems pretty simple. If a ball has no reservation, you simply reserve it. The only negative aspect here is the need to have the app and be online - internet would be a requirement if you want to use any of these balls.
Matt
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Re: Boatyball
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11/25/2018 09:51 PM
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I think the next step will be "demand pricing" just like Uber. If you want the last ball in the anchorage, you will pay a premium for it. Five years from now, this is the way the BVI will operate. It will be a better experience for your money.
Douglas E. Linton
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Re: Boatyball
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11/25/2018 10:58 PM
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maytrix
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It is certainly an interesting concept, one that has worked in other places. Dockwa is available in other areas and essentially does the same thing.
One thing that I think could work great if it was part of it would be being able to make a reservation and cancel at anytime. The catch would be that if you cancel and no one else takes over your reservation, you still pay for it. But if you cancel and someone else books an otherwise full mooring field, they'd take the mooring you had reserved and you'd then get a refund. Would be great if there was a waitlist in a full mooring field as well - someone cancels, you get a notification..etc. Lots of potential. Only realy drawback I see is that it requires having an internet connection and not everyone will have it.
Matt
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