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Re: Boatyball
[Re: FRANKIE2]
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01/02/2019 01:07 PM
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So if checkout is 11am and check in 2pm, does that mean the balls can be used between 11 and 2 free of charge? Like for a lunch stop?
Matt
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Re: Boatyball
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01/02/2019 07:02 PM
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Another change we are considering is a mandatory check in time. If a boat does not moor up by a specific time they would lose their reservation. Doesn't that somewhat nullify the whole reason behind your service? Just got back from a week in the BVI and used Boatyball twice-Once for Christmas day on Anegada and then on a repeat visit to Cooper at the end of the trip-Great experience both times and it was nice to know that we didn't have to rush to get a mooring and could enjoy where we were and not worry about rushing to get to where we needed to be. Narwhal
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Re: Boatyball
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01/02/2019 07:15 PM
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Adding a mandatory check-in time is a good enhancement, which would benefit the charter companies. Last night I sat outside watching a half dozen boats, all sailing cats under power, come in looking for (unavailable) moorings after sunset. I would have photographed them, but it was too dark. I have never seen it this bad, and I don’t know the reason. It’s not safe for anyone involved, and it’s risky for the boats.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: RatmansWife]
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01/02/2019 07:36 PM
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Adding a mandatory check-in time is a good enhancement, which would benefit the charter companies. Last night I sat outside watching a half dozen boats, all sailing cats under power, come in looking for (unavailable) moorings after sunset. I would have photographed them, but it was too dark. I have never seen it this bad, and I don’t know the reason. It’s not safe for anyone involved, and it’s risky for the boats. Which mooring field was this?
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: FRANKIE2]
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01/02/2019 07:41 PM
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What would be a good mandatory check in though? Because I may want to reserve a ball so I can show up just before sunset. If the mandatory time was sunset or even an hour ahead of time, that wouldn't be good either because who else would be able to use the ball at that point anyway? Make it early enough so someone else could make use of the ball and then the whole purpose of it is defeated.
Matt
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: FRANKIE2]
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01/02/2019 08:49 PM
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I think the Moor Seacure piece of paper we sign has always prohibited rafting up.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: mfringsley]
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01/23/2019 02:12 PM
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So for Capt. D there was a boat on his mooring and nobody onboard. But what if they were on it? What if they simply say "I'm not moving" or "My crew isn't onboard with me" or whatever? Do you just hover around in the mooring field trying to find out what to do? Do the crews square off and just show a battle of wills? Is there someone monitoring and preventing boats from taking the moorings incorrectly? So much room for error....
You raise the pirate flag!
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Capt. D]
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01/23/2019 02:15 PM
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if anyone sees Wonder Boy charter boat, give him a piece of my mind. Wonder Boy or Wonder Boat?
Chuck W.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: FRANKIE2]
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01/23/2019 06:45 PM
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Seems like the one constant in the issues with reserved balls are crewed boats. G
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: isuee94]
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01/24/2019 10:58 AM
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On the surface this seems like a very good idea, with two (at least) fundamental problems: squatters and not being able to spontaneously decide to stay an additional night on your mooring. As for the latter issue, I don't know how to solve that one, other than, if you think you might want to stay another night, don't use a BoatyBall mooring.
As for squatters, I don't think it's realistic to expect harbour managers to be able to prevent bad behavior. So, I suggest implementing a fine system. The harbour manager can report the squatter boat to BoatyBall, who then fines the charter company $100, which they charge against the charterer's deposit. Rental car companies essentially do the same thing if you get a parking ticket in their car. Of course, the charter companies would have to be on board [no pun intended :-)] with this and warn charterers in their briefing. This wouldn't solve the problem that evening if somebody squats, but I imagine it would do a lot to prevent it.
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Re: Boatyball
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01/24/2019 11:16 AM
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If these squatters have not paid thru BoatyBall, who is collecting the mooring fee? New sign on BoatyBall mooring.... <<< $35 night with reservation (paid online), $70 night w/o reservation. >>> Or Carol can create a new forum... The BoatyBall forum of Shame. Pics of the violators to be downloaded!
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Re: Boatyball
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01/26/2019 10:56 AM
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On the surface this seems like a very good idea, with two (at least) fundamental problems: squatters and not being able to spontaneously decide to stay an additional night on your mooring. As for the latter issue, I don't know how to solve that one, other than, if you think you might want to stay another night, don't use a BoatyBall mooring.
As for squatters, I don't think it's realistic to expect harbour managers to be able to prevent bad behavior. So, I suggest implementing a fine system. The harbour manager can report the squatter boat to BoatyBall, who then fines the charter company $100, which they charge against the charterer's deposit. Rental car companies essentially do the same thing if you get a parking ticket in their car. Of course, the charter companies would have to be on board [no pun intended :-)] with this and warn charterers in their briefing. This wouldn't solve the problem that evening if somebody squats, but I imagine it would do a lot to prevent it. I don’t see it being an issue if I want to spontaneously stay another night in the same harbor after reserving a Boatyball the first night. Unless it’s a NYE or Full Moon event, then there should be plenty of other balls open up in the morning for me to move the boat. So the situation presents a solution. Having folks that respect the BB reservation system and having folks to enforce it is the same as all of the other discussion points. But I personally wouldn’t use my last-minute decision to stay as an excuse on why I shouldn’t pull in the lines and move over to one of the other vacant balls.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: kimharp]
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01/29/2019 05:29 PM
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TomGarvey
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This is another argument for fining the squatter through their charter company. Otherwise, in this situation the squatter gets a free mooring, BoatyBall is out the $35 after the appropriate and inevitable chargeback, and the reservation holder has a frustrating experience.
BoatyBall will likely not survive if this keeps up.
Tom Garvey
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: kimharp]
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01/29/2019 05:41 PM
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agrimsrud
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Haven’t posted here in a while but I’m compelled to report a Boatyball fail for us today at Anegada. I was excited about this idea at first, but after getting up at 6:30 this morning to reserve a mooring only to find someone on it with no signs of leaving, I’m pretty pissed off right now. Plus we’re out $35. What time did you arrive on your ball?
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: sail445]
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01/29/2019 09:33 PM
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agrimsrud
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I would imagine that the time he arrived at the mooring would be irrelevant because he has paid an overnight fee.
Because if he got there before his check in time (noon) the boat from the previous night could still be on the mooring.
Life's short - sail more!
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