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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
[Re: MIDiver]
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09/30/2020 05:31 PM
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We just got off the phone with Air Sunshine. They relayed that their agents have been informed that the border opening may be pushed back to December 15 and are therefore not booking any flights before that date. Oh no. Can anyone confirm this? Haven't heard anything locally yet but we are due for a curfew update today or tomorrow so maybe we'll hear more then.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/30/2020 05:33 PM
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/01/2020 08:33 AM
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If they move the date to Dec 15 you can kiss the tourist season goodbye completely. Folks are getting tired of all the political issues in the BVI. It is truly tiring and frustrating. I really feel for the people that live in the BVI to have to go thru this harassment.
tpcook
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/01/2020 11:35 AM
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If it does change, we'll be the first ones in! We're on a red eye, connecting on the early morning Cape Air flight on the 15th. Jason is bang on - they need to focus on the re-opening, and stop squabbling with the U.K. If we can't come without quarantine, we'll cancel.
My prediction months ago was that they wouldn't re-open until they ran out of money to pay government workers. Starting to look pretty accurate.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/03/2020 09:26 AM
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I’m hoping this works out. Testing is one thing but it doesn’t change how much of this virus is out there. I have been surprised at how tenacious the bug has been thru the summer and how diabolically evil it is in spreading. Good news is that death rates have gone way down and soon seem to be on the way to influenza like numbers. That’s not just better treatment due to knowledge but I believe the evidence that the beast has become more infectious and less deadly.
If any of you have a college around you, you’ve likely seen 100s of cases on the campus and spread in the community since the semester began. In our town of 50,000 with a college with 7000 students, they have 250 cases. Our town had 4 deaths Friday. The incidence had been pretty low all summer and there is a mask ordinance in effect since July. Looks like that deal at the Whitehouse last Saturday had a positive case slip through and to date up to 9 cases and counting. No political comments please, but it illustrates the problem.
What are the odds with people coming from everywhere that there are not exposed but not yet positive or exposed during or after testing, on their way asymptomatic cases. In 96 hrs before and 48 after a test how many people and surfaces does one possibly contact? How many contacts do those people that you contact have in the last ten days?
Like the kids returning to the party er I mean college, pent up Island visitors in a group that’s been tested negative will likely have a sense of security. Unfortunately that test means nothing likely for 3 or 4 days before and ever after it was taken as to whether you are infected. Alcohol, old friends, the sun and sea bringing on a great desire to seek the shade of a watering hole to quench that thirst.
My worry is and I’m probably/hopefully wrong, that the government will freak at first few cases and impose onerous new restrictions. As long as the virus is prevalent in the countries from where tourists are coming it will make the trip.
Last edited by Will_L; 10/03/2020 09:29 AM.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/03/2020 09:38 AM
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I suspect, like in Canada, that the numbers will rise as the weather gets colder and more people are inside.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/04/2020 10:49 AM
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Obviously many here are extremely eager to finalize travel itineraries for their vacations or to get to their place in the BVI in December and beyond, and it’s been a long, painful wait for everyone - moreso for those who have been dealing with the harshest effects of this pandemic. And with the anticipated details of that opening still not forthcoming, many have become even less patient. We also can’t wait to return and see the friends we’ve made there, contribute to the businesses, and enjoy the beauty. But we want everyone there to be safe too, and not experience the same fall back to stay-at-home that the USVI and many states in the US have as travel opens up. So we hope to see the Dec 1 details soon, but things can change as that is two months away... Waiting patiently...
"Travel changes you. As you move through this life and this world you change things slightly, you leave marks behind, however small. And in return, life — and travel — leaves marks on you.” -Anthony Bourdain
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/04/2020 11:14 AM
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I would love to go back down to VG but I have adopted a wait and see approach - flight costs won't be a problem even if one purchases close to departure dates and by waiting it keeps the options open.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/05/2020 08:54 AM
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I bought aa tickets from Miami to STT Dec 1-15 for $388/rt for 2 persons. Same trip 1 week later double the price $366/rt for 1 person Still waiting on government to do something.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/05/2020 09:28 AM
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We see airline fares fluctuate sharply (Often much more than doubling) all the time as I’m sure you know. It seems a bit risky to book flights for Dec 1 arrival without the details we’re waiting on?
"Travel changes you. As you move through this life and this world you change things slightly, you leave marks behind, however small. And in return, life — and travel — leaves marks on you.” -Anthony Bourdain
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/05/2020 02:46 PM
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Jason, just tried that - not working. Weird. It's working for me. If you have an option, try a different browser. For me it works with Chrome but not always Microsoft Edge.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/05/2020 03:01 PM
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VIAirlink.com works for me as well using Chrome. It will not work with iOS.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/05/2020 04:57 PM
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So the government is going to talk to all stakeholders and this means no protocols till at least Oct 21 Total incompentance. WAY, WAY too late. Talk should have been done months ago. Tourism is dead for 2020 and well into 2021. Owners of villas, hotels charter boats are going to start hurting big time. Workers will be hurting way into 2021
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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10/05/2020 05:11 PM
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So the government is going to talk to all stakeholders and this means no protocols till at least Oct 21 Total incompentance. WAY, WAY too late. Talk should have been done months ago. Tourism is dead for 2020 and well into 2021. Owners of villas, hotels charter boats are going to start hurting big time. Workers will be hurting way into 2021 Sounds like its time to implement a new tourism tax to generate more revenue. What shall we call it? We have run out of departure tax, NPS fee, environmental fee, etc., nomenclature. We need to get really creative so none of the rich US tourists realize its another ripoff. Suggestions?
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