Traveltalkonline.com Forums


BVI Cruise Schedule TTOL Sponsors BVI Travel Calendar
Forum Statistics
Forums39
Topics39,307
Posts318,791
Members26,656
Most Online3,755
Sep 23rd, 2024
Top Posters(30 Days)
bdeeley 68
RonDon 36
Kennys 28
erb923 26
jazzgal 22
GaKaye 20
Member Spotlight
Halcyon
Halcyon
Sacramento, California
Posts: 23
Joined: May 2018
Today's Birthdays
KDTenn, MCJgraduate
Who's Online Now
19 members (GeorgeC1, CanuckTravlr, Todd, SXMScubaman, Whale Tail, RatmansWife, xrayman67, Kegoangoango, Kennys, timnboston, Todd_Melinda_K, Uksimonusa, deliveryskipper, 6 invisible), 1,517 guests, and 63 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#278803 03/26/2022 11:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
Traveler
OP Online Content
Traveler
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
On the BVI Charters and Vacation Facebook page there is a video of a somewhat bizarre incident. Posting states boat left with engines running. Jib not properly secured and unrolled, Jib sheets looped around throttle and yanked engine into gear. Bumper cars after that. Wish I could figure out how to post a link. Anyone know if the details above are correct?
G

Last edited by GeorgeC1; 03/26/2022 11:17 AM.
BVI Sponsors
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
I saw that and heard he left engines on to charge batteries

my buddy pulled it up on badideaboating on instagram

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 584
T
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
T
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 584


Tom Garvey
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
Traveler
OP Online Content
Traveler
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
The guy in the dinghy came close to getting hurt. Probably best not to have become a human fender! A boat that size certainly had a generator which is far more efficient for battery charging. I wonder if the Genset was inop.

Last edited by GeorgeC1; 03/26/2022 01:05 PM.
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,190
M
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
M
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,190
So unsettling. That is negligence in my book. I heard that the damaged boat has to be hauled out in Puerto Rico for repairs.

Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
Originally Posted by GeorgeC1
The guy in the dinghy came close to getting hurt. Probably best not to have become a human fender! A boat that size certainly had a generator which is far more efficient for battery charging. I wonder if the Genset was inop.


As I replay what would I do in this situation I was looking at that dinghy captain wondering was that a good idea

Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 23
J
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
J
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 23
That’s crazy! If I read this right, they left the engine running at anchor with nobody on board? The neurotic skipper in me tells me that’s not a great idea. Is that a standard practice?

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
Traveler
OP Online Content
Traveler
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
Personally I would never leave a main engine running without someone on the boat. I don’t like to even leave a generator running unattended.

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 878
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 878
Not supposed to run the engines unattended. The genset at least has a shutoff, I believe the engines only alarm until they seize. I certainly have a lot of sympathy for the owner of that boat. I wish I could see the charterer statement on this incident.


M4000 "Lio Kai"
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 878
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 878
Originally Posted by GeorgeC1
On the BVI Charters and Vacation Facebook page there is a video of a somewhat bizarre incident. Posting states boat left with engines running. Jib not properly secured and unrolled, Jib sheets looped around throttle and yanked engine into gear. Bumper cars after that. Wish I could figure out how to post a link. Anyone know if the details above are correct?
G


Unless they were charging at idle, or had the throttle(s) set in neutral reverse, it seems like it would require the throttle lever being pulled first back and then forward for this to happen.


M4000 "Lio Kai"
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
I never leave the helm with the engine running…

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 647
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 647
It would seem as the boat ran over the anchor it would tend to reset and hold the runaway to some extent - but with this capt, I would not assume a proper set.


Polaris
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 81
T
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
T
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 81
Was the boat on anchor or on a mooring ball? If the later, I'm guessing they didn't tie in correctly.

TC42 #278848 03/26/2022 06:44 PM
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,190
M
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
M
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,190
Originally Posted by TC42
Was the boat on anchor or on a mooring ball? If the later, I'm guessing they didn't tie in correctly.


There are only two mooring balls in this part of White Bay - originally designed for day boats not overnight and not huge boats. A boat this size under power would have no issue breaking the mooring. Will chat it up with Lou when we are visiting next week and get her thoughts.

Last edited by MIDiver; 03/26/2022 06:55 PM.
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
Unbelievable! don't need anymore information to stay away from the West-Side of White Bay. Stayed on the east side overnight once moored next to Ivan's Peace and Love - That was magical. But the west side is a $hit show!

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 100
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 100
Best thing: overnight in great harbour, never in white bay

Last edited by bigbone; 03/28/2022 08:35 AM.
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 21
G
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
G
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 21
Saw an even worse one at White Bay in 2019 where a young child got his hands on the throttles of an idling twin outboard engined centre console whilst the adult were attending to mooring the boat stern to the beach. The youngster pulled the throttle into full reverse or near to.....boat walked sideways and nearly crushed people who were swimming. Not a fan of boats mooring stern to beach at White Bay.....fatality was possible. Need for a boat free swimming area never more illustrated in this incident

Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
Originally Posted by bigbone
Best thing: overnight in great harbour, never in white bay


East side of White Bay is great with right weather/waves...West is non starter at any point

I have had more issues in Great Harbour to include being swung into at night by a boat anchored just outside the mooring

Favorite is Little Harbour or better yet Diamond Cay

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,963
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,963
We spoke to the owner of the private Bali 48 that was hit, at Skinny Legs in Coral Bay. She said that the Bali 50 was on a mooring. It motored around the mooring, not under command, until the sand screw pulled out. Damage to the Bali 48 was to an engine room bulkhead. They are having the fiberglass work done at Puerto del Rey.

The captain of the vessel that went walkabout made an egregious series of mistakes.

Cheers, RickG


S/V Echoes, 2003 Beneteau 423
Grenada
RickG #279032 03/29/2022 11:34 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 559
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 559
So I still don't get it. Even if they left the engine on how did it get in gear?


Life's short - sail more!
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,359
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,359
Originally Posted by agrimsrud
So I still don't get it. Even if they left the engine on how did it get in gear?


Jib wasn't properly secured, unrolled in wind, then loose sheet caught shifter/throttle.


JasonHelmbrecht
Coconut Breeze Villas
Cane Garden Bay
reservations@coconutbreezevillas.com
www.coconutbreezevillas.com
bailau #279045 03/29/2022 01:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
This - We are planning on staying at Little Harbour this trip. We could stay in Diamond Cay as well through. Which would you pick? Little Harbour or Diamond Cay - never stayed at Diamond Cay. Have stayed in Little Harbour, Great Harbour and White Bay...

bailau #279046 03/29/2022 01:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
Originally Posted by bailau
Originally Posted by bigbone
Best thing: overnight in great harbour, never in white bay


East side of White Bay is great with right weather/waves...West is non starter at any point

I have had more issues in Great Harbour to include being swung into at night by a boat anchored just outside the mooring

Favorite is Little Harbour or better yet Diamond Cay


sory the above question (previous post) was supposed to have this quoted...

Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
If you want peace and quiet Diamond Cay is great. You have BLine and Foxys Taboo and of course Sandy Cay and Sandy Spit are close. Never had a hard time getting a Mooring

Little Harbour has Cynthia at Harris's place and Sidneys.

Great Harbour has provisioning...

what are you looking for for the JVD leg of your trip? Do you have Scott's cruising guide?

Here is our land based JVD trip report from 12/21
http://www.traveltalkonline.com/ubb...ed-jvd-scrub-12-11-12-20.html#Post271939

Last edited by bailau; 03/29/2022 03:01 PM.
bailau #279061 03/29/2022 04:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
Originally Posted by bailau
If you want peace and quiet Diamond Cay is great. You have BLine and Foxys Taboo and of course Sandy Cay and Sandy Spit are close. Never had a hard time getting a Mooring

Little Harbour has Cynthia at Harris's place and Sidneys.

Great Harbour has provisioning...

what are you looking for for the JVD leg of your trip? Do you have Scott's cruising guide?

Here is our land based JVD trip report from 12/21
http://www.traveltalkonline.com/ubb...ed-jvd-scrub-12-11-12-20.html#Post271939


Well I think peace and quite wouldn't be bad. We will be staying at Cane Garden Bay the night before and will be at Norman the night after. We will want to take a taxi to White bay though for the afternoon as we have some couples on the trip that haven't been to the BVIs before. Haven't been to Foxy's taboo or Bline so this might be a nice stop.

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 860
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 860
Originally Posted by UncleLuff
This - We are planning on staying at Little Harbour this trip. We could stay in Diamond Cay as well through. Which would you pick? Little Harbour or Diamond Cay - never stayed at Diamond Cay. Have stayed in Little Harbour, Great Harbour and White Bay...


We've never stayed at Diamond Cay but started staying at Little Harbour every charter startiing about 3-4 trips ago and love it. The quiet plus choice of excellent restaurants (we love Abe's) makes it a great overnight stop. A taxi all the way to White Bay isn't that expensive.

Last edited by louismcc; 03/29/2022 04:51 PM.

Louis from Houston
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,434
Originally Posted by UncleLuff
Originally Posted by bailau
If you want peace and quiet Diamond Cay is great. You have BLine and Foxys Taboo and of course Sandy Cay and Sandy Spit are close. Never had a hard time getting a Mooring

Little Harbour has Cynthia at Harris's place and Sidneys.

Great Harbour has provisioning...

what are you looking for for the JVD leg of your trip? Do you have Scott's cruising guide?

Here is our land based JVD trip report from 12/21
http://www.traveltalkonline.com/ubb...ed-jvd-scrub-12-11-12-20.html#Post271939


Well I think peace and quite wouldn't be bad. We will be staying at Cane Garden Bay the night before and will be at Norman the night after. We will want to take a taxi to White bay though for the afternoon as we have some couples on the trip that haven't been to the BVIs before. Haven't been to Foxy's taboo or Bline so this might be a nice stop.


That is good re:land taxi...White Bay pretty much shuts down abound 4-5 anyways. Only thing to see in Great Harbour IMHO is Tipsy Shark. You can provision at Rudys there with taxi on way back. Christine's bakery is also good...he daughter usually has a road stand by customs

Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 551
H
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
H
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 551
Love Diamond Cay. Bline there is a great very low key place. One of our new favorites. More of the old style BVI beach shack vibe. Super nice couple runs the place. There is also the short walk to the Bubbly Pools from the dock on the Foxy Taboo side of the bay..

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 692
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 692
I would also vote for Diamond Cay. We like both Foxy's Taboo and B-Line. The Passion Confusion is the drink to get at the B-Line! The hike to the Bubbly Pools is short and scenic. I would have Little Harbor on backup just in case the North Swell makes Cane Garden uncomfortable.


Sue
s/v Ripple
Leopard 40

[Linked Image]
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 260
M
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
M
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 260
You can't go wrong with Little Harbor OR Diamond Cay...BOTH are great anchorages in my opinion and much better anchorage/mooring options on JVD for quiet/peaceful.

In your case I would just choose based on what you and your group want to do off the boat...bubbly pool hike, Foxy's taboo and B-line, then Diamond Cay is the play - quiet boat time with dinner options and slightly cheaper (maybe) cab ride to White Bay, then Little Harbor is the play.

Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,214
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,214
We like to hang out at Diamond Cay for the afternoon. Go to B-line, Foxy’s Taboo, bubbly pool. Then motor around the corner to Little Harbor to have dinner at Harris’s that night.


Colleen

[Linked Image]


Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 142
S
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
S
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 142
Our group was sitting on the beach in front of SD. The loose sheet had been flapping in the wind for at least 15 - 20 minutes prior to being knocked into gear , which had many people looking around the West side beach for the Captain, as it was causing quite a bit of noise. My understanding is that Captain was down at Ivan's.

Hats off to the several other boaters who reacted pretty quickly, boarded the stray boat, brought it under control and re- anchored well away from the busy part of the anchorage!

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 260
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 260
Years ago a couple moored next to us in Soper's Hole, West End where we had stopped to check in with customs. The captain apparently put the boat in reverse to slow it down so his girlfriend could grab the mooring ball. They were in such a hurry to go below, he neglected to shift back to neutral. After about 15 minutes his boat did a 270-degree spin and was about to hit us when I got our dingy between the 2 boats and knocked loudly on his hull. He appeared in the companionway obviously upset I had interrupted his "lunch" until he realized his mistake.


Jeff

Tug William B
[Linked Image]
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
Traveler
OP Online Content
Traveler
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,172
Maybe it was a bit more than lunch. That can certainly make a man forgetful!


Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5