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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: TikoTiko]
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01/30/2015 12:22 PM
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TikoTiko said: The end of an era….The Government of Saint-Martin has decreed Arrete no001-06 no more nudity on Tintamarre. On our last cruise to Tintamarre Capt Philippe was approached by the Reserve Naturel and told no more nudity on Tintamarre. On the boat and around in the water ok..but a swimsuit or pareo to stroll the beach… we hope that Club O can convince them to grant an excemption for TIKO TIKO on the grounds of acquired rights over 16years… Possibly a change to Happy Bay could be done?
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: TikoTiko]
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01/30/2015 03:35 PM
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What a shame! We have some great memories of our trips to Tintamarre on the Tiko Tiko. Seems so pointless to do this. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cloud.gif" alt="" />
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Re: END OF AN ERA
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01/30/2015 04:12 PM
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Very sad news. We loved our Tiko Tiko cruises to Tintemarre. Hopefully, they'll change their minds. But, for now, one must wonder what's next. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cloud.gif" alt="" />
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Re: END OF AN ERA
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01/30/2015 04:20 PM
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I certainly would be interested in hearing the justification for this, as it makes no sense..
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Re: END OF AN ERA
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01/30/2015 04:41 PM
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Perhaps people on other boats who go there for excursions were complaining. The squeaky wheel always gets the grease! It was families on Disney cruise ships that complained about nudity at Orient Beach and look what happened there.
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: Lreserve]
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01/30/2015 05:14 PM
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Lreserve said: Orient Beach was more about local French families complaint from what I have been told.
<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> Yes, that's what we were told too.
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: Lreserve]
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01/30/2015 05:29 PM
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I never said the boat captains complained. I said the [color:"blue"]people[/color], meaning passengers on the boats complained.I am certain the captains would not complain; sorry if you read this wrong. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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01/30/2015 05:55 PM
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We were as surprised as you to see the post, for now there will only be second hand information swirling. We don't want want to be included in any misinformation. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
And Carol, I highly doubt the French Reserve or whoever else is involved gives any thought about cruise ship people's concerns. Believe me.
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: Dansc]
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01/30/2015 07:17 PM
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Not that I am into nudism or naturism, but I find it ironic, to say the least, that "Naturism" is prohibited in a "Natural" Reserve... However, to answer Carol's question, this action was taken in the pure line of government policies about nudity in "public". The Reserve Naturelle is turning as a bunch of obsessed people about regulations... They are evicting "Tropical Wave" from the Galion, evicting "Butterfly Farms" (which BTW was stupidly fined last week for not have special license and permit to handle "wild animals" (no kidding...), they are taking a bunch of action to sit their "new" authority recognized by the Government.. I am totally for protection of Nature, and I certainly do not want the French side to become a concrete jungle like the Dutch side, I am condoning protection and reservation of nature, but IMHO there are some limit to the stupidity of the action taken to achieve this goal! stupid, scilly and sad
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: TikoTiko]
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01/31/2015 10:40 AM
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TikoTiko said: The end of an era….The Government of Saint-Martin has decreed Arrete no001-06 no more nudity on Tintamarre. On our last cruise to Tintamarre Capt Philippe was approached by the Reserve Naturel and told no more nudity on Tintamarre. On the boat and around in the water ok..but a swimsuit or pareo to stroll the beach… we hope that Club O can convince them to grant an excemption for TIKO TIKO on the grounds of acquired rights over 16years… Stupid and unenforceable. Hopefully sanity will prevail.
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: Computerwise]
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01/31/2015 03:02 PM
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Computerwise said: Force nude lifesyle, what are you talking about. It has been commonly accepted there for 20+ years. I don't get this whole nude being upset thing. So if a women or man wear the smallest of thongs and go topless it's OK. Tell the people before they visit that they may encounter nude people and let them decide if they want to visit there. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: Lreserve]
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01/31/2015 03:05 PM
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Lreserve said:
And Carol, I highly doubt the French Reserve or whoever else is involved gives any thought about cruise ship people's concerns. Believe me. You got that right! They couldn't care less. This being said, I'd like to know the reason. It makes no sense whatsoever.
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Re: END OF AN ERA
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01/31/2015 04:03 PM
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The Reserve patrol every day and the other forces occasionally...and I have posted a photo taken an hour ago on Tintamarre of the official sign on our facebook page...
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Re: END OF AN ERA
[Re: tmsxmsails]
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01/31/2015 05:46 PM
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Tintamarre is uninhabited, nudity has always been practiced there. There are no 'residents' to offend. For years, Tiko was the only boat that went there. Nudity or not has NO effect on maintaining the 'natural' state of the island. Ban boats from going there, or making campfires or whatever, or other things that actually have some EFFECT on the balance of nature. Banning nudity there is just plain government meanness, for no real purpose.
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