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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: sail2wind]
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02/21/2015 05:20 PM
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After a couple of trips to the BVI we decided we should try exactly what you are planning to do. We had an extra couple who were not sailors coming on our next trip and thought the space and amenities would be exactly what we wanted. It was perfect. There were two fridges, a great kitchen, notice I did not say galley. Every stateroom had its' own head with a huge shower. We were in dockside nirvana. Well until we got sailing anyhow. Wow, that is when things changed for us. We knew there would be compromises in the sailing characteristics but it was just too much for us. Every evening we loved the boat. Every day we hated it. But that is just us. We have a close friend who sails at least as much as we do who swears by getting catamarans when in the BVI. It really depends on your group. We have since gone back to monohulls and our friends who were new to sailing still come with us and love sailing on a monohull. I am happy we tried it, even if it was not for us and it is true, your drink will not spill on a Cat! Have fun with whatever you decide. url=https://flic.kr/p/q7tB42] ![[Linked Image]](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7536/15825847347_5c9cbeecc5_b.jpg) [/url] BVI 2011 by kimshand, on Flickr
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
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02/21/2015 05:58 PM
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I have owned both, and I always say that if I am going sailing for the day, give me a mono. If I am chartering for a week or more, give me a cat. Modern cats are really easier to sail than monos, albeit a bit different. In reasonable sea conditions, they won't tip, they point okay, tack easily, and are fast, but certainly not scary.
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: Winterstale]
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02/21/2015 09:35 PM
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Not that much of a transition other than getting used to driving a tennis court around!
Life involves risks, take some prudent ones (NOT with the BVI ferries)!
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: rhans]
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02/21/2015 10:29 PM
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rhans said: You go girl. Just don't get spoiled if the sea's are flat in May. I would rather have a 2 dimensional movement than a 4 in rough conditions. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> agree
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
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02/22/2015 04:36 AM
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Winterstale said: We are chartering a cat for the first time this May.....we don't expect it to alter our plans to one day own a mono <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> We shall see <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> Of course, it depends what your long term plans are. If you are always simply going to coast hop then a mono is fine. If you start crossing oceans then, believe me, living at an angle ceases to be 'fun' once you get beyond the third day or so out at sea. If you want to cross oceans - particularly with a small crew - the second hull makes life much better.
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
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02/22/2015 09:00 AM
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Ditto on Mike and Frank's comments. We are new to cats, I had chartered cats four times before but had always owned mono-hulls and to me that is real sailing. But, as Mike said, a long crossing sail on a cat is much more comfortable. We now own a cat and I am still getting used to it. It is bigger and more comfortable, but it still feels like driving more than sailing. Having owned both a mono hull and a cat in charter in the BVI, there is no question about what people want. Our cat is chartered back to back through the whole season. So, as an owner, a cat is a better investment. As a sailor, I still prefer a mono.
Mike "The journey is the thing." Homer
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: sail2wind]
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02/23/2015 07:40 PM
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sail2wind said: I get a cat when you have 8 plus people. I get the stability. I still love the feel and responsiveness of a mono. I'll second that.
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: rhans]
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02/23/2015 07:58 PM
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On a cat that can hit double digits I loose my love of real sailing for the exiliration of speed.
At anchor, with a few exceptions, I love the stability all night long.
Life involves risks, take some prudent ones (NOT with the BVI ferries)!
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
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02/23/2015 08:08 PM
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rhans said:sail2wind said: I get a cat when you have 8 plus people. I get the stability. I still love the feel and responsiveness of a mono. I'll second that. Agreed... At home I sail a mono, on vacation, a cat.
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: sail2wind]
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02/23/2015 08:34 PM
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sail2wind said: at anchor or moored, have you ever heard the water slapping between the hulls. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> That slap takes some getting used to BUT the bridge deck Bangs underway in more than a 2' chop will get your attention.
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: rhans]
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02/23/2015 09:36 PM
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rhans said:sail2wind said: at anchor or moored, have you ever heard the water slapping between the hulls. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> That slap takes some getting used to BUT the bridge deck Bangs underway in more than a 2' chop will get your attention. Our first time on a low Voyage Cat, we were sailing along smartly when we caught one under the bridge deck and my wife came out of the cabin with a real concerned look on her face and said "what the *&^% did you hit???" <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> shook the whole boat! What fun!!
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
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02/23/2015 09:42 PM
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IMHO - Cats are just big pontoon boats with sails. So there.... I've said it. Let the hate mail begin!
Life's short - sail more!
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
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#41128
02/23/2015 10:07 PM
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agrimsrud said: IMHO - Cats are just big pontoon boats with sails. So there.... I've said it. Let the hate mail begin! All sailboats are for pussies. You want excitement, then ride a motorcycle! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> But seriously, arguing about the type of boats you prefer is pointless. We all love being on the water, the wind in our face, the sun on our shoulder, and a drink in our hand. Peace.
s/v Snow Dog - Leopard 46
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: windward2c]
#41133
02/24/2015 06:55 PM
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My sympathies Captn.
I was wondering if being up on the flybridge would be too far away from the action in the cockpit and thought the off center helm would at least put me within eyesight. Is it the hard top you really don't like?
It probably doesn't matter either way, I'm usually alone at the helm anyway and it's giving me a complex!
Life involves risks, take some prudent ones (NOT with the BVI ferries)!
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Re: Switching from monohull to catamaran
[Re: sail2wind]
#41138
02/25/2015 08:51 AM
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I guess it's crew dependent. I almost always have someone sitting with me at the helm. Might have some at the bow and some at the stern too, but someone always sits with me too.
Mono is good for this though since there's really no where else for anyone to go.
Matt
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