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Re: Anegada FCFS ball failed on me
[Re: Matt W]
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04/22/2024 06:43 PM
04/22/2024 06:43 PM
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Glad you’re ok, and it seems to have worked out with nothing more than extra excitement,
Am I just reading about this more? Or is it becoming a thing that balls can’t be trusted as much as they used to? I’ve moved off of a ball that I don’t like the look of, and don’t take them as infallible, but are they becoming fully questionable?
Enjoy the rest of your trip!
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There’s nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.
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Re: Anegada FCFS ball failed on me
[Re: Matt W]
#318504
04/23/2024 05:22 PM
04/23/2024 05:22 PM
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MrEZgoin
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We're at Diamond Cay now which is pretty choppy. I should have seen that coming with the ESE wind we still have today.
PredictWind is showing the wind waves, which are not the swell that Z is referring to. Those will be from the north and are the long rollers you see out in open water from distant weather.
The longer the period, the more energy these swells carry and expend when they reach the shore.
EDIT: and, yes, White Bay probably inadvisable in the coming days as well. Great Harbor is a good alternative and a short cab ride (or dinghy if conditions allow).
Last edited by MrEZgoin; 04/23/2024 05:24 PM. Reason: added info
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Re: Anegada FCFS ball failed on me
[Re: Matt W]
#318522
04/24/2024 07:04 AM
04/24/2024 07:04 AM
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The simplest site to use is: https://www.windguru.cz/58 You can see the swell direction, height and period in one easy-to-view image and can scroll down to get other models and often you get secondary swell data as well. White bay will be inadvisable. CGB as well; one time I didn't check the weather and a north swell hit overnight while I was anchored there. I escaped without grounding but as I was motoring out the channel, I had surfers surfing in next to me at the same time. If the water is 15 feet deep and a swell of 6 feet builds up while hitting shallow water, your boat can suddenly have no more water underneath it! The best place is the Virgin Gorda North Sound and it also lets you explore a couple of anchorages while there, so you don't get bored.
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Re: Anegada FCFS ball failed on me
[Re: Matt W]
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04/24/2024 09:27 AM
04/24/2024 09:27 AM
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It can be hard to predict what swell, wind, and wave action will do in various situations. Just because the action is not coming directly into an anchorage doesn’t mean the anchorage will not be affected. Having anchored up and down the U.S. East Coast, Bahamas, and the Caribbean from the DR to Grenada we have encountered untenable anchorages that “appeared” fine when looking at the various forecasts. Swell and waves can wrap around headlands, capes, etc. with amazing efficiency. Water depth, sea floor topography, and many unknowns will have an effect. In the BVI the good news is the local old salts have the experience to give great advice for virtually every situation.
My wife studies wind, swell, and waves very carefully and has become very adept at predicting the effects on a given anchorage. I defer to her on the subject. Charterers will seldom have the experience to make the appropriate predictions except in obvious situations. Our rule when trying to do the calculus required when we can’t obtain local knowledge is to avoid any anchorage if we find ourselves in a serious discussion about “do you think it will be OK?” PredictWind, windguru, and Navily are very helpful, especially when one cannot access local knowledge.
Last edited by OceanSong; 04/24/2024 09:28 AM.
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Re: Anegada FCFS ball failed on me
[Re: Matt W]
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04/28/2024 11:32 AM
04/28/2024 11:32 AM
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MrEZgoin
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Scary stuff. Glad you were still aboard and able to react!
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