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jmbcomms
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: CindyO]
      #1608037 - 10/04/14 06:18 PM (75.67.215.24)

This is the whole thing:

This is the agreement that Caravanserai wants all timeshare owners to agree to. It is posted at Agreement Letter
The cover email reads:

From: alegria operations <alegriaoperations@outlook.com>
To: alegria operations <alegriaoperations@outlook.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 4, 2014 1:47 pm
Subject: Timeshare Agreement status at THE CARAVANSERAI BEACH RESORT&#8207;

Dear Timeshare owner,

Attached please find a letter that is intended to update you on the status as a timeshare owner at the Caravanserai Beach Resort.

Should you have any questions or comments, please contact us directly via this email address or by telephone number 721-545-4000.

Sincerely,

The Management of
Alegria Operations N.V.

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Jeff Berger
Visiting SXM Since 1978


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SXMScubaman
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: jmbcomms]
      #1608038 - 10/04/14 06:59 PM (174.31.141.128)

WOW. Looks like all the timeshare units were sold with out permission from the Bank and are now null and void. Feel sorry for the people duped. Looks like the only recourse is through Kildare Properties LTD which is probably no longer. It also states that Alegria can terminate their agreement if they want with you even though you sign the agreement. Not a good place to be in.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: jmbcomms]
      #1608039 - 10/04/14 07:20 PM (72.185.226.88)

Does this mean that people who bought a 1 or 2 bedroom now have access to only a hotel room? Could this mean that they will finish off the other two buildings as hotels and that is what the timeshare owners will have access to? This letter does not really explain anything.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: MrWhiskerssammy]
      #1608042 - 10/04/14 08:17 PM (75.67.215.24)

Exactly...clear as mud.

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San
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: jmbcomms]
      #1608043 - 10/04/14 08:19 PM (130.132.173.197)

Well, this is pretty serious.

Jeff, can you help us find out more? The new owner wants us to pay our regular maintenance fee, that once covered a timeshare, that will now cover a hotel room?


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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: San]
      #1608044 - 10/04/14 08:27 PM (174.31.141.128)

The way it reads I'm not sure if they are asking for the current MF or the original one they charged and was in effect at the time of TS purchase.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: MrWhiskerssammy]
      #1608045 - 10/04/14 08:52 PM (32.216.64.42)

IF this is legal and IF it stands, chalk up one more black eye for the island of St. Maarten. I so hope the interpretations here are wrong for everyone's sake.

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Respectfully,

pat



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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: SXMScubaman]
      #1608046 - 10/04/14 08:56 PM (76.206.23.42)

The way I read it, you pay the equivalent of you MF to rent the room for a week. Which might be the standard room rate for the hotel and as a hotel you don't pay the money up front. And the kicker is "if available" ( which you probably won't know a week before your arrival date).

SXM??? Wendell


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Re: Does Anyone have the full text of the email? [Re: jmbcomms]
      #1608049 - 10/04/14 09:35 PM (24.144.229.52)

Maybe I am wrong but I thought the bank had assigned someone to overlook the running of Caravanserai for quite some time pending the sale. If the timeshare sales were going on openly in the lobby while being run by a bank assigned person then it seems to me that the bank therefore waived any objection to timeshare sales and in fact was giving approval to timeshare sales and even encouraged the sale of timeshares to maximize profit for the bank and attract a buyer. It seems disingenuous for someone to argue otherwise.

In fact it seems to me if at any time someone working at the front desk while the bank had taken over had printed out a charge or collected a timeshare tax from anyone staying there or cashed/deposited a timeshare maintenance fee then that person was acting as am agent of the bank and approving in writing the existence of timeshares at the resort.

Edited by mecs (10/04/14 10:16 PM)


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Re: Does Anyone have the full text of the email? [Re: mecs]
      #1608051 - 10/04/14 10:28 PM (174.31.141.128)

Looks like a very expensive $$$$ and time consuming class action suit in a St Maarten court that will probably never be settled to the satisfaction of the TS owners. Hate to say it but suck it up and run.

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