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Christopher56
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: boucharda]
      #1608305 - 10/06/14 05:26 PM (70.215.7.1)

I responded to their email letter and told them that I REFUSE this insulting offer and that a buyout of my unit for what I paid back in 2006 pre construction is what I want. Will see where that gets me.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: madg1108]
      #1608311 - 10/06/14 05:44 PM (69.133.43.72)

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madg1108 said:
Go to Caravanseraitimeshareowners ..one word... on Facebook




Thanks, but I don't have a dog in this fight other than attempting to monitor and moderate what goes on here on TTOL.

Currently there is much more discussion going on here regarding the situation than on a facebook page that was started yesterday.

Good luck to those involved.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: mecs]
      #1608315 - 10/06/14 06:50 PM (50.76.111.101)

Agree! Very well stated.

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Re: We can do help maybe [Re: mecs]
      #1608317 - 10/06/14 07:01 PM (72.60.106.124)

Sorry, mecs, did not really intend to direct to you, but to everybody that has interest in this subjet. So am looking for a "spokes person" for lack of a better term?

If there is interest, we can set up a seperate forum to help, or at least communicate. Would the t/s owner be supportive of that??

Yes, it would be available to all (not that their are not other options, but lets go with that at this point in time). Just making an offer, that is all.

Let me know, or who ever might be interested, but it does have to be civil to some extent, is that acceptable?

Send me a PM or maybe better yet an email, use the contact us at the bottom of the page. There are options for this type of thing, so yes, can it be done, yes absolutely!

Let me know if you and the various owners are interested. Not saying you are in charge at all, just that the offer is there. Do not have any idea where it might go and I/we do not have a stake in the issue, just making resources available in this particular situation.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: mechtech43]
      #1608319 - 10/06/14 07:15 PM (24.3.246.11)

Ouch! You pierced me straight to the heart. I have actually done a lot of business over a lot of years (more than I care to admit) in North America and somehow managed to come out whole. I learned a lot of lessons along the way, and some of them I learned the hard way. I'm not an attorney and have no expertise in St. Maarten law, but I've had experience writing a lot of contracts over the years, so I do know a thing or two about legal constructs. I've even fought the good fight in court on occasion. I haven't "detemined" that anyone should just walk away, although many have already done so. I simply asked that you consider at what point do you finally decide to walk away from a bad investment.
So I'm just trying to pass on my insights from my own experience. I surely do understand the urge to fight this. But my point is at what cost? When is a win a win? To paraphrase a former President, it depends on what definition of 'win' is. After months or even years of struggle, you might win a battle only to discover that you and everyone else involved losses the war in the long run. One of the points of my post was that Kildare ran the resort into the ground to the point of threatening its continued existance. My question is how is beating up on Alegria, who has invested a lot of money into turning the situation around, going to make things any better.
The way I see it, they have made a first step proposal that is, I'm guessing, one they feel in their minds is a reasonable and good faith offer. So here's what I would suggest. Instead of starting a fight that no one can possibly win, why not select of delegation of Caravanserai t/s "owners" and meet with representatives of Alegria to 1) hear their side of the story, 2) air your grievances to them, and 3) see what common ground exists between you or can be negotiated. Compromise would certainly be more satisfactory than the risk of losing everything, and a whole lot less expensive at the same time.
Peace.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: VitaMan]
      #1608321 - 10/06/14 07:28 PM (68.109.114.220)

Thank you, again.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: VitaMan]
      #1608323 - 10/06/14 07:41 PM (162.218.147.156)

Messengers often get shot, I know I have BUT - I called "Caravhell" today and inquired about 3 weeks booked with RCI for late Oct & Nov. ($199 per week) - I was told "you better call the manager to see if they are still good". Tried to no avail. Called RCI, they promised to call me back today and so far NO RESPONSE. $600 rental fee for 3 weeks is a joke so I really do not have a dog in this fight, but I do have another TS so I feel your pain.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: boucharda]
      #1608329 - 10/06/14 08:46 PM (99.71.168.63)

I am not sure if it makes a difference or not...but the sale at SBR(Pelican) was a sale to keep the place a timeshare resort. It sounds like Alegria is NOT PLANNING to have any timeshares...that they just want a resort hotel. I have not noticed if any of the ''owners'' at Caravesnerai has checked their agreements to see how it was stated on their agreements. Sounds like the courts will be pretty busy in the next few months.

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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: Christopher56]
      #1608333 - 10/06/14 08:58 PM (99.71.168.63)

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Christopher56 said:
I responded to their email letter and told them that I REFUSE this insulting offer and that a buyout of my unit for what I paid back in 2006 pre construction is what I want. Will see where that gets me.




Playing devil's advocate....but i am assuming....and i hate using that word...that the contract you made or preconstruction back in 2006, was payable to the old ownership, and this new ownership did not receive one nickel of the price, and will probably not give a rat's ass about your complaint. They didn't see any money in their pockets...so probably the one to demand money back from would be Manek and company...and we all know what that will get you.

As others have stated...this new ownership overpaid for the property as is....and sure not going to payback owners monies that they never realized in the first place. Again...i am assuming that this would be the case...i may be wrong.


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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria [Re: EdB]
      #1608335 - 10/06/14 09:15 PM (190.102.4.213)

On a different note. If anyone remembers Tony Narducci one of the salesmen at Caravansari before all the shit hit the fan is very ill. He has pancreatic cancer and is in Colombia for treatment. He was up to recently working the activities desk at the Royal Islander.

He actually quit caravansary when the plan was unveiled to knock down the resort and resell it. He smelled funny fish!

I'm sure that those that remember him will wish him a speedy recovery and better heath.


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