So much for "knowns"...after conversations last night Como is a maybe, because Lake Maggiore is back on the list, we spent one night in Stresa a few years ago and that lake deserves more exploring, maybe ;-) I do know we are flying in and out of Malpensa though and both lakes are only an hour away!! Thank you "gringo" for your info, I started looking at Val D'Aosta this morning! If we do rent a car our airbnb's would need to include a parking space for sure. We actually enjoy the train travel more than driving most times. "Gringo" when we travel, we tend to move a lot, so 2 night stays aren't uncommon for us, even a quick one night stay is not a negative for us,, depends on our mood. We like to travel with a backpack and have been known to walk into a town without hotel/airbnb reservations...we'll say this looks good or let's get on a train and try another. Some might find that stressful or unorganized, but we kinda enjoy it!