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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 08:42 AM
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Another ArticleConfusing as to who is missing. Mother and child or two younger people?
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 08:53 AM
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Confusing story. As I posted maybe 10 days ago, someone else drowned on the French side recently. Be careful swimming, people!
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 10:40 AM
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Wow, how horrible, regardless of who the victim(s) end up being and horrible to be there also..
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 11:12 AM
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No flags nor lifeguards at any beaches that I am aware of.
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 11:19 AM
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Does anyone pay attention to the flags?
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 11:33 AM
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What happened was so very sad. I've seen those killer waves and the wild surf there and that anyone would venture into those waters is mind boggling to me. This would be the day to head for a gentler beach or just to curl up on a chair in the sand and enjoy the natural music of the beach. But thats me and don't we all sometimes think we're infallible? I get it....
Back in the day, as Kim said, MBR&C used to have flags but as Mullet went, so went the flags along with the palapas and all the other things that made this such a great beach back then.
Today they rely on personal responsibility and I will say no more beyond how very sad! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 11:58 AM
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From the picture on the news article of the two they believe are the victims they look to be young 20's and perhaps also natives to the island so they have probably done this many times and thought it was just another day to ride the waves. Based on the picture of the waves the sea looks extremely angry and dangerous. Yikes.
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/26/2017 06:26 PM
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Wow, very sad. And I can't imagine being a person who discovered the first body in the water..
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/27/2017 12:39 PM
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You would have to take that up with the government of SXM.
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/27/2017 01:03 PM
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Terrible way to go.
Does anyone know what the typical sequence of events are in these instances (don't want to over simplify and I'm sure every situation is different but I'm asking for a pattern)? Is it a strong current from the large surf causing a drift away from the shore and then exhaustion from trying to fight it to swim back to shore leads to drowning?
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/27/2017 10:38 PM
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Computerwise said: I know I'm over simplifying this but how about charging $1 or 2 for each beach chair rented on Mullet which goes toward paying for the lifeguard (MB clean the beach at the end of the day)..thus giving several youths a job and maybe saving someones life.. Sorry....but I have to disagree with this statement a hundred times over. The waves have been very rough for days before this drowning.... Red flags have been all over the beaches....anyone with eyes can see the surf was HUGE.... There are NO LIFEGUARDS on any beach... Now...you have two ''invincible'' twenty something year olds (which they were), going swimming in conditions that any sane person would not. Should any lifeguard risk their won lives, to save the life of someone who shouldn't have been there in the first place??? My answer is no... These two victims, unfortunately went into the water, when they shouldn't have. I have been to Mullett in lousy conditions, and only a fool would venture in to it. Thankfully there was only the two victims this time....some rescuers may have been added to the tally. My heart bleeds for their families.
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/28/2017 09:25 AM
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I believe that you are talking about the man who passed on Orient? I actually hadn't heard about that one until I saw it in Jeff Berger's newsletter. That was believed to be a heart attack, yes. That is a totally different situation, but still very tragic and I applaud you for thinking of his family. In addition to these young men who passed at Mullet due to the wave conditions, there was also another man who drowned on the French side in the past couple of weeks. So sad for all of their families, to have these incidents occur. In these other situations, it is incredibly sad, but even more sad, that it didn't have to happen.
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/28/2017 10:32 AM
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PattyB said: I was there the day the man died on the french side last Thursday. It was very tragic and lots of professionals that were on the beach came to his rescue (2 Dr.s & an ER Nurse and others) and gave CPR and Auto Defibrillator but to no avail, he couldn't be saved. The beach was calm that day as well and it's suspected the man had a heart attack and then drown. I posted on another site in hopes to let the family know that all that could be done to save him was done and when they concluded that he was gone, a french woman came to his side and prayed giving him his last rights. [b]It was a very emotional thing to witness. His daughters did see my post and we have since been in contact where I could give them more information that they thought they would never get. While as tragic as it was, I am glad I could give the family comfort at a terrible time. Have compassion and give kindness to those who have been affected by something this tragic instead of pointing fingers at who or who did not do whatever to help, the families will greatly appreciate it. [/b] Nicely said and kudos to you for your kindness to and compassion for the family of the drowned man. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/28/2017 11:38 AM
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Wow, I hadn't heard about that other one on the Dutch side.. Very sad for all involved. Be careful swimming, people!!
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/28/2017 03:00 PM
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Computerwise said: ED B, You make no sense at all, if there were lifeguards, the red flag would be up on rough surf days and the lifeguards would not allow anyone in the water. Also surf conditions change, and lifeguards could save someone who isn't a good swimmer or taken out by riptide. It's not about the lifeguards. They are on duty all summer on the Jersey shore. Know when most drownings occur?? Right, once they are off duty and gone for the day. It doesn't matter how many RED flags are flying, Kids will simply ignore them and do their own thing. They have no sense of danger. Sure lifeguards protect the beach from 9 to 5, after that <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" /> My daughter was a guard at the shore and when it was quitting time they called everyone out of the water, put away their high chairs and left. Everyone went back in the surf when they left. There were many times she had to go back in the water because some one didn't read the posted signs. Signs mean nothing, just like the one by SXM airport runway.
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Re: Two Missing at Mullet Bay
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03/28/2017 03:12 PM
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Wow! Is that ever the truth!
We were on Mullet a few years ago when the waves were the biggest I've ever seen in 43 years. Neither Rosie nor DaLeo had their chairs out because the waves were crashing up almost that far.
We sat at one of Rosie's tables for about an hour watching the waves and in disbelief, watching the few young ones brave enough (or foolish enough) to tackle the waves - some with boogie boards, some with surf boards and always the inevitable body surfers. Personally speaking, I thought they were nuts but what do I know?!
As we were sitting there, the Soualiga Patrol drove into the parking lot and came onto the beach and ordered everyone OUT of the water. When the few didn't do as instructed, they called out to them with a bull horn and told them if everyone didn't leave the water immediately they would close the beach and even the sun-bathers would have to vacate, so after a few minutes of friendly discussion back and forth, they all came out of the water and dried off.
A rather heated discussion ensued but eventually, the Soualiga Patrol headed back to their car and literally, the moment the car left the parking lot, those that would were right back in the water, as we were pretty sure they were going to do from the getgo.
There's only so much anyone can do and when it comes right down to it, who among us hasn't at one time or another thought we were infallible?
My heart goes out to the families and friends of all who have suffered a loss to this kind of an accident but when it comes right down to it, it's pretty hard to protect people from themselves.
Respectfully,
pat
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