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Aborted Landing #127363
04/15/2017 03:54 PM
04/15/2017 03:54 PM
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Re: Aborted Landing [Re: ruralcarrier] #127364
04/15/2017 04:41 PM
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MIA
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Bet ya there is a lot of screaming in there.
Amazing blast off!
irina

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: irina] #127365
04/15/2017 04:52 PM
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I was watching it live on the webcam and couldn't believe what I was seeing! It was a really rainy day at the airport and very busy.

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: blackmercedes] #127366
04/15/2017 06:18 PM
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Exact same thing happened to us a few years back. We could see people sitting at SSBG right out the window. Still have marks from my wifes nails in my knee. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: SXMScubaman] #127367
04/15/2017 07:12 PM
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New England (home), St. Maarte...
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New England (home), St. Maarte...
Windy and rainy...you can see how the aircraft was bounced around. Great piloting.


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Re: Aborted Landing [Re: ruralcarrier] #127368
04/15/2017 07:45 PM
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Central Florida!
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Scary stuff!!!!


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Re: Aborted Landing [Re: Carol_Hill] #127369
04/15/2017 08:30 PM
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We landed about an hour ahead of this flight and we could actually see the 'weather' moving in as we flew nearer to the islands, and by the time we actually cleared the airport - about 1:00 - we were all like drowned rats. In all our many years and trips I have never seen this kind of weather/rain conditions. Yet by four o'clock it was beautiful again and just what you'd expect a St. Maarten afternoon to be. Well, aside from the road flooding and such but once the rain squall passed through it was gorgeous all over again. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />


Respectfully,

pat



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Re: Aborted Landing [Re: pat] #127370
04/15/2017 08:47 PM
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Glad you landed ok. Hoping to hear about your trip!!


Carol Hill
Re: Aborted Landing [Re: ruralcarrier] #127371
04/15/2017 11:23 PM
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Even more so than Westjet, a good go around. Nothing worse than to push a crappy approach. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: PelicanPirate] #127372
04/15/2017 11:41 PM
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Omg I would have had a heart attack!!!!

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: kabs996] #127373
04/16/2017 04:31 AM
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Anybody know which flight thaf was? PHL, CLT, MIA?

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: PKwx] #127374
04/16/2017 05:09 AM
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It said CLT.

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: PKwx] #127375
04/16/2017 09:20 AM
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Peaceful Eastern North Carolin...
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CLT. The same flight we take every year in November.

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: GaKaye] #127376
04/16/2017 09:38 AM
04/16/2017 09:38 AM
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Yup, the one we will be taking in a couple of months. Can't believe I'm going all the way north to Charlotte to get south!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />

To me, maybe it's the angle, but that looked a whole lot more scary than the WestJet deal. It looked like the plane wasn't over the runway and the wings were definitely NOT level! I bet there were some people with their hearts in their throats! Definitely looks like they made the right decision to go around.


Carol Hill
Re: Aborted Landing [Re: Carol_Hill] #127377
04/16/2017 10:42 AM
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Looks like wind shear, during heavy convective rain showers you can get down bursts of wind from directions other then usual. Notice how the plane crabs then drops before taking back off, looks like it lost some lift. Most major airports in the world have wind shear sensing systems to warn approaching aircraft, not sure they have one. Another reason why SXM is one of worlds most dangerous airports. I'm always nervous when landing or taking off in weather.

I've been in some hairy landings in both commercial and military aircraft but definitely would have be doing a trouser check and hitting the nearest bar once on the ground.

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: Carol_Hill] #127378
04/16/2017 11:48 AM
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I agree. He was nearly sideways when he made the decision to go around.

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: GaKaye] #127379
04/16/2017 09:28 PM
04/16/2017 09:28 PM
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I have to fly to get to SXM & now more nervous than before. I always thought the planes had instruments to tell them how far from the ground they were? Anybody know why they weren't aware??
Did u hear one of the pilots from the Charlotte plane today talking to the ATC? I think he asked if there was a spot where there were no clouds today. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: PelicanPirate] #127380
04/16/2017 09:42 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HQMgnckqS_E

The is American go around in foul weather reminds <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> me of this Navy F-14 aborted landing on the carrier. Last second decision a good one

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: PelicanPirate] #127381
04/16/2017 09:57 PM
04/16/2017 09:57 PM
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Well, while not fun to watch this video as I will be on this same flight in 2 weeks, it always reassures me on American or other big carriers that combined experience between Captain/FO is greater than 30 years... it's what they do every day

Re: Aborted Landing [Re: jeepers] #127382
04/17/2017 05:33 AM
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Not that it changes anything but this could happen to any airline, any flight and from any departure city. You are dealing with weather and while the planes have the same instruments they would when landing elsewhere, you are dealing with wind over water and basic weather in the tropics. While a lot of flying is automated, it does comes down to having competent pilots to make the right decision given the situation and the elements.


J.D.
Re: Aborted Landing [Re: ruralcarrier] #127383
04/17/2017 11:35 AM
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The Villages, FL
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Landings like that make you realize that these professionals deserve every penny they get paid.



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