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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
[Re: JanBob]
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05/29/2017 12:00 PM
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Das is the former SOUS chef at Temptation, NOT the executive chef. The executive chef, who works under Dino, is still there.
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
[Re: kdsdance]
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05/30/2017 03:47 PM
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Before you discount this man's professional integrity based on the "sous" comments, I suggest reading the definition: http://linecookjobdescription.com/sous-chef-job-description/This man is capable of handling his own place as chef. I know him personally. It's more that I worry the waste of his talent in a place that does not have enough traffic to sustain him to it nor will the hotel do much to promote him.
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
[Re: SXMDeepBleu]
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05/30/2017 04:33 PM
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I don't know that anyone is doubting his professional skill. The point is that the original post said THE CHEF from Temptation was starting this new venture. My post was to point out that the executive chef at Temptation remains employed at Temptation. As far as his 'professional integrity', to me, I think that he owed it to Dino to tell Dino that he was starting his own restaurant, but perhaps that's not the way it works in the restaurant biz, I have no idea.
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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05/30/2017 05:10 PM
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True, but as you are a veteran visitor on the island, please honestly tell me if you think the restaurant biz is the same in SXM as the USA runs it's?...Island business ethics are a thing.
I should add that i was referring to the "big difference" comment on Exec. Chef, which would actually be Dino to be correct. then a "head" or Managing Chef which you are referring to. Then it would be Sous, (in which I believe Dino has more than one Sous chef) then a pastry chef and so on... I do believe that Dino did make a statement wishing him well on his new venture so that seems to be a non issue.
And I bet you that the OP was told by Das that he was "A" Chef as opposed to a Sous chef, it's common on this island to be general in a way when speaking of your skills.
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
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05/30/2017 07:52 PM
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Regarding Dino, his statement regarding this situation was this
"Since the US elections, the term " fake news" seems to be in vogue, so please allow me to set this record straight. We are not moving to Summit, We are closing for the month of June for vacation, instead of the traditional September when many restaurants on the island close. We hope to benefit from being one of the few restaurants open during that month. I'm not aware of any of my staff resigning, or opening a new business, however it is certainly any persons right to do as they wish during non working hours. If any of my staff have the opportunity to earn more money , have a second or side job, or help a friend out, even start a business, all I can do is wish them well, and be grateful for their service. We are a team of 15 people, and our regular guest know that many of our team, have been with us for 10 plus years, ( including my sous chef Das). It may very well be that Das is busy with something at Summit, that I'm not aware of, but this does not equate at all to Temptation moving to Summit. While we are still open this month, please come and enjoy our 3 course summer special for $45. "
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
[Re: SXMDeepBleu]
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05/31/2017 05:31 AM
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Just curious SXMDeepBleu...do you have a personal axe to grind with The Summit? While your input is welcome and appreciated, 3 of your 4 posts have negative implications regarding the place.
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
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05/31/2017 06:55 AM
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In all due respect, if you are reviewing my previous posts then the first initial post sent by me answered this. Also, I will explain it in this way...
There are and have been many posters here over the years who have or maybe allegedly have had bad experiences with hotels, beaches, restaurants, locations or areas, etc., and their information has been given or posted here in either protest or just opinion, or maybe just feeling the need to express concern over supporting a friendly acquaintance.
My posts have not been any different than others and they do not blast the Summit per se, I am simply stating a well known fact about the lack of occupancy in the hotel, food service location and its past history.
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
[Re: SXMDeepBleu]
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05/31/2017 08:12 AM
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No, sorry, gotta say, don't tell people sitting at the bar that you're going to open a restaurant, before you tell Dino.
As to the bar at the Summit, I personally have only been there once, but I don't stay in Cupecoy area. The bar and restaurant there does seem to be closed a lot. I don't know why.
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
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05/31/2017 10:20 AM
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Not Deepblue and.......
Not a commentary on Temptation or Sublime, or for that matter, not on the Summit Resort or the restaurant's that have tried to make it there in the past, but I for one would be very happy to see a quality restaurant at this location but I can't help but wonder if this might not be an overly ambitious endeavor for this new entrepreneur.
Restaurants anywhere are an incredibly difficult business to operate in that they require full time hands on to be successful. There's a lot more to it than just having good food or even a great location. Dedication, personal involvement and a total commitment are absolute prerequisites, and these are just for starters. There's so much more that goes into it........
The Summit is a cute little older island-style resort but sadly, even with its incredible view from the pool deck overlooking the water, I think it needs a lot more to make it work as a dining location. Past operators there have been hit or miss in both their menus and hours of operation, just for starters, even when their food offerings have been good. And to offer breakfast, lunch and dinner is a formidable undertaking, IMHO, which is why so many places specialize in one or the other.
Beyond that, it's off the beaten path; it's not big enough to have an in-house regular clientele; and truthfully, even though the parking is seemingly adequate, the actual access to the restaurant area, unless it's been changed, leaves a lot to be desired. I can't tell you how many times over the years we've walked down to find them closed or not serving the meal we were hoping for.
The ethical issue of the new operator notifying his current boss was not to my personal liking, but sadly, I think it's pretty normal for the island and further, I'm thinking it was probably one of those conversations that slipped out and then couldn't be taken back, because in the enthusiasm of the opening it was preemptively publicized.
Personally, I hope they do well and I hope the resort management helps them out with some publicity as well since it benefits them both in the end. And lastly, I know we'll give it a try on our next trip and hopefully, while it remains to be seen, I hope it's a huge success for everyone involved.
Respectfully,
pat
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
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05/31/2017 01:00 PM
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I would be, too, and even more so if I were you.
Wait a minute - thats not would be but I AM excited since the more good dining ops we have going in that direction the less need we have to drive any distance in island traffic....... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Joy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Joy.gif" alt="" />
Respectfully,
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Re: Resaurant at the Summit Resort
[Re: SXMDeepBleu]
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05/31/2017 07:48 PM
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OK, well, I have no idea what medical students want. We will close this one now and see what develops at the Summit..
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