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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
[Re: Jasperben]
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01/25/2018 08:11 PM
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No idea, but to assume that the Collective gave them permission to do what they did, might not be correct. Just sayin', if so, why haven't all the others reopened??
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/25/2018 09:21 PM
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I have no idea what is accurate and what is not but to me, this is the problem with people/businesses throwing up a shack and conducting business. If it is in violation of codes or law, this is what will eventually happen. While I am all for the free enterprise system, I do assume there are laws, regulations and building codes one would have to follow.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 10:17 AM
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I doubt if either of us know the entire story and while it does appear to be "unfair", temporary is temporary and unless a definitive date was agreed upon, this is what happens.
If the "temporary" shacks/huts are allowed to continue then that is what you will have up and down the entire beach. I am not saying it is right or wrong either way but the business owners and French government need to come to terms with what they can live with an go from there.
I guess you can have Orient Beach like it was 20+ years ago, like it was 5 years ago or like it was last year.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 10:31 AM
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Jasperben--again, your original post said 'it's been reported..." Reported by whom? Just because it's on the internet, doesn't mean it's so. Why would Chez Leandra be given permission to reopen and not anyone else?? That said, I absolutely agree, one million percent, that the French side authorities need to get off their penguin you-know-whats and allow places to reopen along the beach. They are hurting everyone by their position.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 10:37 AM
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Correct on all accounts Carol.
One only has to go back to when Irma first devastated the island. There were all kinds of erroneous reports regarding places being "gone" when in fact they were not all factual. Damaged, damaged beyond repair and totally "gone" are vastly different things.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 11:05 AM
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the Perch, so all the cruisers are flocking there causing issues. . Curious, what issues?
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 11:52 AM
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I think some people have complained about people taking pictures, as from my understanding, there is no security now.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 12:23 PM
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People need to realize, MANY "cruisers" had their first ever visit to SXM this way and then they decided to return. That is how I first went there 27 years ago and I have made 60+ visits with 6 of them being via a cruise ship.. This attitude that "cruisers" are a problem is uncalled for in many cases. "Cruisers" have as much right to Orient or any other beach on the island as any other tourist does.
I have seen people who were not "cruisers" visiting Orient Beach who created "issues" also.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 01:06 PM
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It seems odd that the temporary permission was for only 3 days. These people lost their source of income and are trying to make do until those who are in power get their bleep together. It also gave the visitors more options.
As far as the "issue": I'm not there, but from what I've read from those who are. Club O asked some au naturel people to move down. This would help "protect" them from the gawkers & picture takers, as there isn't the security necessary to do that. We have spent many days on the Club Orient beach - both as visitors and guests - and have always been welcoming to most cruisers (the non-gawkers). The club explained their position on their FB page, and further stated that their entire beach is c/o.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 01:14 PM
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It seems odd that the temporary permission was for only 3 days. These people lost their source of income and are trying to make do until those who are in power get their bleep together. It also gave the visitors more options. It has only been "reported" they had this permission, I have not seen it substantiated by a reliable source yet. I have no idea who "reported" this and if it is factual or not. Not everything that is "reported" is 100% factual. Carol addressed this earlier in the thread.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 01:28 PM
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People need to realize, MANY "cruisers" had their first ever visit to SXM this way and then they decided to return. That is how I first went there 27 years ago and I have made 60+ visits with 6 of them being via a cruise ship.. This attitude that "cruisers" are a problem is uncalled for in many cases. "Cruisers" have as much right to Orient or any other beach on the island as any other tourist does.
I have seen people who were not "cruisers" visiting Orient Beach who created "issues" also. That's how we got hooked on St Maarten. 6 cruise visits and then stayed at Belair for 10 days and bought timeshare at Flamingo that same trip. Been going back every year since for 19 years for 4 weeks. Only three this time since our Flamingo home is closed and rented a Villa instead.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/26/2018 01:39 PM
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I do hope it gets resolved soon, so that ALL the places that were in that area can reopen (if they want to).
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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01/29/2018 05:29 PM
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It’s been reported that the Collective gave Chez Leandra’s permission to set up a temporary stand. They set up there place and it looked pretty good, they just started serving food, then today they have been ordered to tear it down by Monday. I can’t understand why they would do this? I was wondering the status of Chez Leandra. IMHO the 40' shipping container was the straw that broke the camel's back. Stay on your slab with a makeshift lolo was the agreement.
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Re: Chez Leandra’s told to tear down by Monday
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02/01/2018 12:54 PM
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Zelman says that's what the French govt said but they are not moving.
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