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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/21/2018 11:19 AM
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I don't know anything about the sailing portion of the trip, but be EXTREMELY careful with the dog off the boat. Many places in the BVI put out poisons for various pests. If your dog is one that will pick up anything on the ground that seems edible, I would NEVER let him/her off the leash and watch them like a hawk!
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/21/2018 11:21 AM
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I must start this conversation by stating that I am dog owner and lover. Is the dog accustomed to boating and being onboard for prolonged periods? Is she used to being on/in the water? As you are presumably chartering I personally feel you should have express permission form the boat owner, even if she is with a charter company, and if not from the direct owner then permission from the company concerned. As a (former) owner of a charter boat, I would want to know of this and put certain rules of my own into place: you should be prepared to pay for a thorough deep clean at end of charter, dog must never be allowed on beds or cushions. This might sound harsh as no doubt you are very caring owners (but how does anyone know that?) but subsequent charterers might not be dog friendly and could have severe allergies which could lead to a loss of income.
That said, other points to consider might be planning carefully where you are intending to dock/moor as dogs might not be welcome everywhere (Leverick did not welcome dogs other than their own local dogs pre Irma for example) . Take a huge quantity of poop sacks and suppose of them very carefully, enough said, never down boat toilets. Clearly coming from Texas your dog is accustomed to heat but this is most likely not a good idea for all.
Good luck.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/21/2018 04:17 PM
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I would love to take my dog on a bareboat trip but even as a owner it’s not allowed. The other issue is getting there. More and more airlines are refusing to transport pets since conditions are not great on airport ramps and it’s a traumatic experience for the dog. I was aboard a lagoon 440 private boat where the owners had a great lab on board however he had done considerable damage to the flooring. When the boat moves dogs instinctively try and dig their claws in and scratches result. I don’t think you will get any lessons learned because in over 100 plus weeks sailing in the BVI I have never seen a dog on a charterboat. G
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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07/21/2018 05:23 PM
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I assumed without knowing that they were doing a charter plane to get the dog there. No WAY I would put a dog in cargo to the Caribbean for a pleasure trip.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/21/2018 08:42 PM
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Well hears your answer as far as Moorings allowing pets on boats. I’m sure it’s reflected as welll in the contract between Moorings and owners. https://www.moorings.com/faqsAs far as worrying about strays in BVI, well I have encountered strays in my neighborhood as well as parks. Just be diligent. I thought boaters were a different breed, excuse the pun, liking adventure and the risks and challenges that go along with it. That’s what drew me to it. I’m sure if you asked Barley would he like to participate in the adventure with the risks he would no doubt say yes, bring it on.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: YachtReprise]
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07/22/2018 09:09 AM
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OY! [b] So much with the advice from people with no knowledge. [b] You're going to be just fine. Just understand that the locals don't regard dogs as members of their family...more like livestock. So PLEASE keep him on a leash on Tortola, VG, and JVD. Poison is common, particularly on JVD. no knowledge, bless your heart YachtReprise! And an expert on JVD to boot! Impressive. The original poster asked for suggestions and tips, he got well thought out responses. I am a lover of animals and especially dogs. We take our golden boating on the regular in the 1000 Islands, NY., with that being said, even though our dog is an experienced boater, I wouldn’t subject him to a plane ride, in the summer heat, especially on my [b] first [b] bareboat experience in the BVI. To each his own......Have a lovely day.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/22/2018 01:02 PM
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I'll just chime in on the dog living aboard. I imagine if the dog does fine on a boat then spending a week on it shouldn't be a problem. We have our boat up in Rhode Island now and have brought our dog 3 times with us and he did great. Our stays were only over a weekend, but we spent 2 nights each time and he did fine. He had a number of day sails prior on a smaller boat.
As far as the comments regarding the dog flying, being an ESA, the dog would fly in the cabin so there's no issues there.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: ski2play]
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07/22/2018 11:45 PM
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OY! [b] So much with the advice from people with no knowledge. [b] You're going to be just fine. Just understand that the locals don't regard dogs as members of their family...more like livestock. So PLEASE keep him on a leash on Tortola, VG, and JVD. Poison is common, particularly on JVD. no knowledge, bless your heart YachtReprise! And an expert on JVD to boot! Impressive. The original poster asked for suggestions and tips, he got well thought out responses. I am a lover of animals and especially dogs. We take our golden boating on the regular in the 1000 Islands, NY., with that being said, even though our dog is an experienced boater, I wouldn’t subject him to a plane ride, in the summer heat, especially on my [b] first [b] bareboat experience in the BVI. To each his own......Have a lovely day. Awww shucks, not an expert. Just a casual visitor for 35 years, business operator, resident, whose daughter was born in the BVI. But by no means an expert. And thanks for your blessings. Now my day...no my LIFE...is complete! Anywho, Sean, before Godwin's Rule comes to pass, if I can help with any advice, please PM me. I'd be happy to share my local knowledge...although, again, I'm not an expert. (Wait, am I? I'm so confused now!)
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/23/2018 10:36 AM
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Thanks for all the comments, feedback, and suggestions folks. Yes, AA has already approved Barley to ride in the cabin with us so he won't have to be in the bottom of the plane. I would never subject him to riding down there even though I believe they put live animals in a pressurized part of the belly of the plane. I have heard about salt water poisoning but I wasn't aware that it interferes with a dogs ability to cool herself. Barley is used to the heat and loves to swim, but I will be sure to limit his time in the ocean. We are bringing potty pads for him to use on the boat since this boat does not have netting (at least the pix don't show any). I am planning to keep in on the lease and will be on the lookout for strays when we are on shore. Steve~We are chartering a PC 433. We pick up our boat on the 27th. We're planning to stay on dock that night then head to JVD-after that we'll see where the wind blows us. Would love to meet up with you guys!!! YachtReprise~Thanks for you comments and support! It's great to know the different ways the expats and native islanders view dogs. I'm sure that will be helpful. We will definitely keep an eye out for the poison. Do they tend to place it in specific locations on or around the beaches?
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/23/2018 12:41 PM
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Talk to Moorings. I've seen netting on their boats before. I don't know if it is something they do or if the charter guests did it though. This was done for boats with kids on them.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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07/23/2018 02:46 PM
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I don’t think netting is needed if the dog is well behaved. I have not seen a issue with dogs accidentally falling overboard. I have personal experience however with dogs jumping off the boat on purpose. Our Golden Retriever jumps from the boat anytime she thinks it would be fun. Speed is irrelevant to her jumping habit. She tucks and rolls like a navy seal! She also retrieves anything going overboard including children! Ha ha agreed. Mine have never fallen but they will certainly jump (and swim a long way to shore if they feel like it). They are now confined to the cockpit when underway and in the salon/galley if left on the boat.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/23/2018 04:13 PM
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Poisoning is a very real risk in the BVI, especially if the dog is not 100% trained NOT to pick up anything on the ground.
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