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Word is Wily T being evicted again.
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10/31/2018 04:11 PM
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I have not been able to verify this but I have heard from two independent sources that the very conservative DeVos family, (ne Betsy) feels that the debauchery of the Willy T is inaproprate for Peter Isalnd and has found a way to have the Willy T served with eviction from Great Harbor within 30 days. As I said, this is not verified but would certainly appreciate any supporting or contridicting facts.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: trueblue]
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10/31/2018 07:35 PM
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One can only hope! Not sure where the Willy T should move to, but certainly away from the tranquility of one of the last pristine mooring fields in the island. I am not, and never have been, a fan of the Willy T. But I know many are. I hope a workable solution can be found. There are plenty of pristine anchorages if that's what you want. Peter Island already had mooring balls, cruise ship traffic, and a shoreside establishment. Can't see how Willy T impacts Great Harbor. Now you can go to Norman Island and have basically what Peter Island Great Harbour was.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: OldRed]
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11/01/2018 08:04 AM
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Looking, I don't see the DeVos family owning it now. It appears the Van Andel family currently own it.
Both families are the founders of Amway.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
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11/01/2018 10:14 AM
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Christmas Cove is under the US flag and the boat would have to be inspected by the US Coast Guard and have all kinds of safety equipment thatās not required in the BVI. There would most likely be issues with the VI Natural Resources Department
Last edited by sail445; 11/01/2018 10:23 AM. Reason: Additional info
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: GlennA]
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11/01/2018 02:06 PM
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I think Christmas Cove would be an awesome place for it too. Pizza Pi for dinner and then drinks at the Willie T. But I agree with sail445 that the logistics of it and trying to maintain it's character in the USVI might be a challenge.
Maybe North-Sound is an option now. Sounds like the majority of resorts there still have a while until they are operational so it might be a great place to bring in an instant restaurant/bar. Could locate it just south of Prickly Pear or it might fit really nicely in Brias Bay.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: GlennA]
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11/02/2018 10:54 PM
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I have not been able to verify this but I have heard from two independent sources that the very conservative DeVos family, (ne Betsy) feels that the debauchery of the Willy T is inaproprate for Peter Isalnd and has found a way to have the Willy T served with eviction from Great Harbor within 30 days. As I said, this is not verified but would certainly appreciate any supporting or contridicting facts. Glenn, I'm not sure that the PI Resort has any ownership of Great Harbor. The LaFontaine family owns the eastern end of the harbor, and I think the Romney family owns the western end, including Oceans Seven. Of course things could have changed recently! The deVos family never owned PI Resort. It was always owned by Amway. (Granted, a technicality) I don't know why the vanAndels ended up with the resort...sometime around the early 2000s. But there has never been any involvement by the resort in Great Harbor. I too wish that the Willy T would drift over to the USVI and stay there. Great Harbor used to be one of my favorite anchorages!
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: Manpot]
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11/04/2018 08:22 PM
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..except the resort is about two years away from reopening..just what we need right now..lose yet another tourist attraction.Disgusting. I say put the " T" in Soper's and you get the charter folks with moorings and anchorage and you can shuttle land based tourists from the dock at the wrecked " Fish N Lime" (which Heather and Ewan, owners of the "T" also owned). I think that would be great for everyone and f$%k AmWay and Peter. ^^^Great idea....
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: Manpot]
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11/07/2018 10:14 AM
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I say put the " T" in Soper's and you get the charter folks with moorings and anchorage and you can shuttle land based tourists from the dock at the wrecked " Fish N Lime" (which Heather and Ewan, owners of the "T" also owned). I think that would be great for everyone and f$%k AmWay and Peter.
Great idea!
Last edited by crmoores; 11/07/2018 10:15 AM.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: GlennA]
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11/15/2018 10:39 AM
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The last thing the BVIs need at this time is the loss of another attraction. While not for everyone the trip reports over the years clearly suggest that for many boaters a night on the WT was a significant part of their island experience. The charter operators should bring pressure to bear to encourage the government to reconsider.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
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11/15/2018 11:56 AM
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Might be another temporary move, but until Saba and Bitter End reopen, the east side of North Sound might be a good spot.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: GlennA]
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11/15/2018 01:28 PM
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There should be no reason to move from the current location. It is well removed and out of sight relative to the resort location. The customer base is not the same so the resort can't fear loss of customers. Oceans 7 is rarely open and seems to have operated primarily as a day trip location for cruise ship passengers. It is nice to have an option of an inexpensive meal in a fun venue. The directive for them to move should be rescinded.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: GlennA]
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11/15/2018 02:00 PM
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Well if money talks then the government needs to be reminded that the charter industry is a major contributor to the BVI economy. What is good for the charter industry is good for the BVI and the Willie T has long been a big part of the boating world experience. The narrow interests of a few deep pockets should not take precedence of the many spending their tourist dollars on a charter boat.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: henryv]
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11/15/2018 02:25 PM
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Well if money talks then the government needs to be reminded that the charter industry is a major contributor to the BVI economy. What is good for the charter industry is good for the BVI and the Willie T has long been a big part of the boating world experience. The narrow interests of a few deep pockets should not take precedence of the many spending their tourist dollars on a charter boat. I don't disagree, but apparently the local govt cares more about the interests of the deep pockets.
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Re: Word is Wily T being evicted again.
[Re: GlennA]
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11/16/2018 07:25 PM
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