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Grammar Mistakes in Posts #180852
01/16/2019 07:28 AM
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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: PelicanPirate] #180866
01/16/2019 11:03 AM
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thank you for submiting the article i disagree with the article in its most basik form because i am the type to beleive that a persons useage of language skils displays a lot abowt his or her ability to comprehend and understand i am also from the old skool where we had teachers who ecsplaned that how you speek and rite gives off an impreshun to the peepl you ar speeking two

But really what I find disturbing about the article is that is just a small control group was examined and they don't say anything about what demographics were used.

Since I am in the downhill side of life (60+) I tend to believe that text talk and/or blog spelling is not the same as writing in general. As an example on my official reports I would write using proper grammar but in our car-to-car instant messaging we would use shortcuts. Unfortunately, IMHO, the "millennials" have confused the two. If that study, which was done by a university and consisted of a whopping 83 people, were all millennial generation age I can understand that they would think people that point out grammatical errors are jerks.

My initial paragraph was written tongue in cheek but believe me when I say I have seen this. There have been numerous occasions for me to obtain written statements from victims and/or witnesses and that is how they have been submitted to me from these folks, who have been at least of high school age. These statements were filled with spelling, punctuation and other grammatical errors. The "I" before "E" except after "C" unless it has a long "A" sound as well as there, their, they're and to, too and two seems to have been either forgotten or disregarded.

Unfortunately before I retired there had to be in-service training to teach these things to the deputies! Here is an example of a young deputy's report about a crash. vehicle 1 was heded west on two lane road when vehicle 2 backed out of there driveway and was struck buy vehicle 1. It should have read vehicle 1 was HEADED west on TULANE road when vehicle 2 backed out of THEIR driveway and was struck BY vehicle 1. Now that's embarrassing and just opens the door for scrutiny.



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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: deputydog1157] #180881
01/16/2019 12:15 PM
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Personally, I think a lot of the spelling and grammatical errors we see here are from the person relying on auto-correct and NOT reading the post after it is submitted. It is very easy to edit a post, but only if one bothers to read it after posting. I am way behind the times when it comes to electronic devices and computers but it seems many rely on auto-correct and it often inserts a word that was not intended to be used.

Some errors are to be expected and are not a problem but when a one or two sentence post makes little sense, that is another story.

I like your example in the last paragraph.


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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: deputydog1157] #180897
01/16/2019 01:44 PM
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Very good post, deputy. I agree that there is a big difference between how millennials communicate and how we 'older' folks do, and what we expect. Texting is to blame for some of it with younger people. With regard to this board, I agree with JD. Many mistakes are as a result of the person just not bothering to re-read what they post.


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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: Carol_Hill] #180948
01/17/2019 01:32 AM
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I don't think these mistakes are being made by millennials in this forum. But I agree with Carol's theory on texting. Why discern "your" & "you're" when it's easier to text "ur".


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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: Biturbo] #180952
01/17/2019 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Biturbo
I don't think these mistakes are being made by millennials in this forum. But I agree with Carol's theory on texting. Why discern "your" & "you're" when it's easier to text "ur".

I would agree with your assessment.


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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: PelicanPirate] #180953
01/17/2019 07:01 AM
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Yes I agree with you on the idea that on a blog such as this I agree in theory that it really doesn't matter. I may have gone astray about the typos because the article was not about this type of forum but it was about people pointing out mistakes being jerks and not agreeable. The study used an email for a roommate and was performed by Go Blue but without breakdown of ages and sex of participants. I am not a jerk and I just said I agree but I will still base my opinion on someone's usage of the language.



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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: deputydog1157] #180957
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I agree with you. As I stated, when the spelling, grammar or otherwise nonsensical delivery of a post makes it difficult or impossible to understand, it presents a problem.

Facebook has a feature where one can "recommend" something in response to a post. MANY times someone with start typing the name of something they want to "recommend" and facebook automatically throws something up. The poster clicks on it as their recommendation and it posts. MANY times what posts is not even close to what they intend to recommend but they never bother to go back and read what was posted so it stands.

Here is an actual example. Someone on a FB page is asking for pizza recommendations on the island. There are several recommendations of local pizza places and then someone posts a link to a pizza place in Chicago IL. Had they went back and read what they posted and the link, they could have edited it.


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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: PelicanPirate] #181139
01/18/2019 12:55 PM
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Gone back.

OK - I am a jerk! smile


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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: jazzgal] #181156
01/18/2019 02:27 PM
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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: PelicanPirate] #181277
01/20/2019 09:29 AM
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In another lifetime long ago I was the editor of our local newspaper. I read EVERY single piece we published BEFORE it went to print and rarely were there any "typos" Typos reference is just a way of saying whoever wrote the piece was too lazy to read it over after it was written and make corrections. In the media today budget cuts have meant that "proof editors" are a thing of the past which means the onus is on the writer to check their work for spelling, facts and grammar.
Spell check helps but won't correct grammar or make sure the data is accurate...think Trump and "fake news"
To be honest, I'm ashamed of the quality of journalism today. To me, the standards today are a poor reflection of what I consider was, once, a noble and proud trade. Like Carol I too am an older "folk" who is disappointed in the lack of professionalism shown today by the younger set. Sorry kids, but I think you need to spend more time with your noses in books and less time staring at a screen!

Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: jimnjudy] #181281
01/20/2019 09:57 AM
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Newspapers in general are somewhat a thing of the past, which is a shame. Most younger people these days do very little reading except on Facebook or Twitter, etc., and so they basically never see correct English or grammar. It is what it is, I guess.


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Re: Grammar Mistakes in Posts [Re: jimnjudy] #181372
01/21/2019 07:02 AM
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Totally agree. My late mother worked for our (now defunct) local newspaper for 35 years. She pretty much did every thing but the editor job and even in a small town paper, people took pride in what they wrote and the accuracy.


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