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Yet Another Scooter Death #193845
05/02/2019 05:58 AM
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Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: ruralcarrier] #193846
05/02/2019 06:39 AM
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The irresponsible driving habits of these 2 wheel drivers is the main cause and unfortunately the authorities haven't placed enforcement of traffic laws high enough on their priorities.



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Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: deputydog1157] #193848
05/02/2019 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by deputydog1157
The irresponsible driving habits of these 2 wheel drivers is the main cause and unfortunately the authorities haven't placed enforcement of traffic laws high enough on their priorities.


Maybe their too busy with other cases...........
https://www.thedailyherald.sx/islands/87162-police-investigating-2-shooting-incidents-2

Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: SXMBND] #193849
05/02/2019 07:17 AM
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Just for clarification, the scooter death was on the French side and the link you posted is dealing with a case on the Dutch side.


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Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: ruralcarrier] #193857
05/02/2019 09:58 AM
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Duly noted....thank you.

Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: SXMBND] #193860
05/02/2019 09:57 AM
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Whether they're too busy at that exact moment might be true. Whether or not it's the Dutch side or French side, traffic enforcement is and should be a 24 hour activity.

I would say, in my opinion, that the reason we don't have that type of driving behaviors here in the states, (blatant disregard for safety) is the fear of being caught and being fined or arrested. We see these bozo motorcycle groups on the highways causing havoc but the police, when able to, do something about it.

If you're driving down a two lane road in your hometown or anywhere you don't expect that a motorcycle/motorbike/moped will suddenly cross the center line of the road and EXPECT the driver that s/he is illegally passing to yield right of way, much less expect the driver in the oncoming lane to do the same.

I was in law enforcement for >25 years in New Hampshire and Florida. That type of driving behavior would not be tolerated and if there were as many deaths due to that driving behavior in as short a time as these, you could bet your bottom dollar the police would find time to enforce the proper and lawful operation of motor vehicles.



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Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: ruralcarrier] #193864
05/02/2019 10:41 AM
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Luckily the driver of the car had no alcohol in the system. Who knows what would happen if the driver did. Fault or no fault.

Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: SXMScubaman] #193870
05/02/2019 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Luckily the driver of the car had no alcohol in the system. Who knows what would happen if the driver did. Fault or no fault.


The French side alcohol limit is .04, half of what is typical in the US. You can still be prosecuted with a lesser amount of alcohol in your system though.

Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: Bahston] #193873
05/02/2019 11:46 AM
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I know. That is what I was referring to.

Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: SXMScubaman] #193910
05/02/2019 04:50 PM
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Wouldn't that be a great vacation. Have 2 beers on OB. While driving back to your hotel a crazy scooter driver runs into your rental car and kills himself. Then the police say it is your fault for having a BAC of .041%

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Re: Yet Another Scooter Death [Re: ruralcarrier] #193915
05/02/2019 05:04 PM
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Want to put money that he wasn't wearing a helmet?


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