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KLM still on the ground! #203094
08/24/2019 08:17 AM
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KLM did not fly out yesterday. It was supposed to depart at 4:25pm. Anyone know the reason?


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203095
08/24/2019 08:26 AM
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Daily Herald Article

Not really much definitive information.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203099
08/24/2019 08:42 AM
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Thank you


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203105
08/24/2019 09:55 AM
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"stranded till further notice" doesn't sound good.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: SXMScubaman] #203111
08/24/2019 10:25 AM
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Yeah, that doesn't really make sense. I'm not sure I would give a great deal of credence to that part of the story.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Carol_Hill] #203112
08/24/2019 10:35 AM
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Article stated they have to wait for experts to be flown in from the Netherlands. That could take some time for them to get there and also time to figure out a remedy for the problem and parts if needed.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: SXMScubaman] #203119
08/24/2019 01:14 PM
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Well, yes, that particular plane might be on the ground for a couple of days, but they have other planes. Just sayin'..


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Carol_Hill] #203122
08/24/2019 01:21 PM
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Correct. Whether they have one available to bring into service for that route is another thing.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203123
08/24/2019 01:45 PM
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Hmmm...when is the next scheduled KLM flight into SXM....or is this THE plane they use

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: boucharda] #203125
08/24/2019 02:00 PM
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KLM due tomorrow. I wondered if they would fly someone in on air France today to assess & maybe send parts tomorrow on KLM.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Carol_Hill] #203128
08/24/2019 02:47 PM
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They’re not going to fly an empty plane there to pick these people up. And then when this plane is fixed fly it back to the Netherlands empty. It’ll be cheaper to refund them all and put them in hotels. Similar thing happened with JetBlue a couple of months ago.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203130
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Or if KLM has space on AUA to AMS flights maybe they can accommodate the SXM passengers that way.
By flying the passengers to Aruba to meet the flight using other airlines.

Last edited by Tammy; 08/24/2019 03:27 PM.

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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Tammy] #203140
08/24/2019 10:18 PM
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I guarantee they are being put up at the Towers. Despite it not being "open" for it's TS owners.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: BeachKitten] #203145
08/25/2019 07:33 AM
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I wonder if Ansary has business interruption insurance, which apparently Diamond does, so he doesn't care how long it takes to reopen? Don't know where these folks are staying, but it has to be a fair number of people. I know that Delta put some people up at Simpson Bay Resort recently..


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Carol_Hill] #203146
08/25/2019 08:58 AM
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Mr. Ansary has his own insurance company called Ennia.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Kennys] #203148
08/25/2019 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennys
Mr. Ansary has his own insurance company called Ennia.


And that insurance company called Ennia my good friend Lesley, is a large part of why the Towers unit owners have the mess on our hands that we currently have.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: pat] #203150
08/25/2019 09:30 AM
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Are you sure, or is that what you are being told? We have Ennia and got our insurance payout quite quickly. I know we're not a big place, but I'm smelling BS from the management.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: BillandElaine] #203154
08/25/2019 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BillandElaine
Are you sure, or is that what you are being told? We have Ennia and got our insurance payout quite quickly. I know we're not a big place, but I'm smelling BS from the management.


Ennia is somehow owned by Ansary - but he didn’t have “insurance” on the Towers! So “supposedly” his money is locked by the central bank? All very cryptic and messed up!!!!

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: BillandElaine] #203157
08/25/2019 11:37 AM
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Lots of BS, for sure, Elaine, and too much to try to explain and that’s assuming we’ve been told the truth which isn’t a given either.

We could have been long repaired and up and running IF things had been done in a professional manner in the first place, and there-in lies the problem.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: pat] #203163
08/25/2019 12:51 PM
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Just wondering Pat, when you say we are you meaning TS owners?

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203166
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Yes. The TS owners still have no idea when we can reoccupy our units yet we are being held responsible for the maintenance fees for each week and year. Many have walked away from their units because of the lack of faith in the way things are being done.

Don’t get me wrong. We were very early preconstruction owners and loved each and every one of the many weeks we spent there over thirty plus years we stayed there but we need more details and accountability from the management and we’re just not getting it.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203179
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...and back to KLM....still there?

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203185
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Still here but they are working on it. The other one came today.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Kennys] #203186
08/25/2019 05:28 PM
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Lesley--Do you know if the people from that flight were able to leave today?


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203188
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I would think so Carol.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203192
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Okay plane has left .

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203206
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Thanks for the update, Leslie.

Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203207
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I don't see any KLM plane on the ground right now, so they must have gotten it fixed.


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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: bdeeley] #203234
08/26/2019 05:44 PM
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Re: KLM still on the ground! [Re: Carol_Hill] #203235
08/26/2019 05:52 PM
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Thanks for the follow up.


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