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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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04/16/2020 09:07 AM
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I wondered about that when I read it.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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04/16/2020 09:09 AM
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I believe that the courthouse in SXM is shut down currently, but I guarantee when the union can sue over this, they will.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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04/16/2020 09:44 AM
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It's a way to get rid of all employees and start over, once they are able to reopen. Don't have to pay them in the meantime, and no seniority, etc., even if they re-hire the same people.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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That's what I thought, Lesley. Not sure why they would even bother. I guess maybe they are thinking some people will just take the money? They have to know they will lose.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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I hope the employees are able to stand firm in their resolve but unfortunately, when you have a family to take care of and no substantial monies to do it with, $3000.00 sounds like a lot. I’ve always understood the SXM labor laws to be pretty tough when it came to discharging an employee even with grounds, so it will be interesting to see what happens here.
Stand strong, SXM people, as you always do.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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04/16/2020 10:40 AM
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If Atrium is closed with no revenue coming in, where does the money to pay them come from? And if there is no money to pay the employees, what are they supposed to do?
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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Basically same situation as after hurricanes in the past, SXM labor laws do NOT allow termination in this circumstance. Not saying they are correct, from a business point of view, but that's the way it's always been in SXM.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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04/16/2020 01:23 PM
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As Pat said, I think some people may take the $3,000 and run, perhaps to go to a different island, although it's tough to travel anywhere these days. I am not that familiar with SXM labor laws, but if they do take the $3,000, probably they would waive any other rights they have.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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6 months of airport shutdown and business shutdown will make a Hurricane look like nothing.
Labor laws worldwide will be tested like never seen before.
When was the last Pandemic closing all businesses worldwide?
If SXM businesses are running the numbers/thinking they are going to be shutdown at least 2 and maybe 6 months to go along with the airport hibernation periods.................. you can expect many businesses to be thinking in the EXTREME as in bankruptcy and gone for good or bankruptcy and popping up as a whole new entity shedding all costs/obligations from the past.
IMHO, any city/state/country not making an effort in May to begin opening up with all the precautions GALORE (tests, twmperature taking all day, social distancing, masks (yes masks on the beach and pool deck) , bandanas, gloves, sanitizer stations, distanced lounge chairs, room service, restaurant delivery service, distanced restaurant tables, and on and on............may as well get into a Delorean Time machine back to 1932. We will be shoved beyond major recession into a depression with 30% GDP contraction where everything we hold onto will be at stake. Everything!
Think of this, when we hit 15,000 dead in the US, we also hit 15,000,000 unemployed. That is 1000 jobs lost/death.
What is the job loss/death metric on SXM?
People die everyday, what is the acceptable COVID death rate per day/year?
Do we return to work/play and what is the acceptable casualty rate? It wont be zero even with a vaccine.
Their is a risk in everything we do.........What is COVID risk tolerance............varies by age
Over 50, good year to staycation. Under 40, roll the dice. 40-50 have corona covering travel insurance if you can buy it.
I suspect most of TTOL over 50. Sorry kids. The rest of the world, get back to work and play and dont forget your mask and sanitizer.
So maybe Atrium has fast forwarded 6 months and sees an empty isalnd and maybe $3000 will be alot of money.
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Re: Atrium fires virtually all employees
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It wasn't my intention to name any names, but since you did ... Where I worked for 37 wonderful years I remember my exit interview with the CEO and the one thing he said to me that I'll always remember was "Our company's greatest asset isn't our shareholders or the beautiful buildings on our campus, but our greatest assets are 1,700 employees like you that walk through those doors every morning and depart later that day." (Though if I was still employed there today I'd be working from home for a while). I'm sorry. I should not have put his name I guess. I was just floored to read your comment. I didn't hear a thing about this on the news here. Very Sad. We live in Waterford.
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