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Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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Daily Herald storyI know it's not SXM, but Interesting parameters, especially including the insurance policy, which covers the cost of quarantine on island. Obviously, there is a mistake in the story, when it says that visitors that test NEGATIVE after they arrive are in trouble. Obviously, it means 'positive'.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/12/2020 11:56 AM
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I wonder if you have to pay for the option to have the test done there? See https://www.visitaruba.com/news/general/corona-virus-and-travel-to-aruba/ for more details. The price to take the test on the island is $75 and the insurance is $15 per insured person per day. These are indicated as preliminary numbers and may change.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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Wow, the insurance price seems kind of steep to me.. I don't know about the cost for a test here, as my insurance would pay for it IF the doctor orders it, but you have to have two symptoms to get the doctor to order it.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/12/2020 12:17 PM
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Wow, the insurance price seems kind of steep to me.. I don't know about the cost for a test here, as my insurance would pay for it IF the doctor orders it, but you have to have two symptoms to get the doctor to order it. The other thing is, there are so many different tests which measure different things!
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/12/2020 01:41 PM
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Don't know, good question, but I kind of doubt it.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/12/2020 02:34 PM
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Neither one of those would cover the cost of quarantine on the island and I think most medicare supplemental insurances don't cover outside the country, or more properly, the only coverage is out-of-network coverage, which is almost worthless.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/12/2020 06:51 PM
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Testing AFTER arrival just won't work....and I'm more concerned about the false negatives ...100% on day one of infection to 67% on day 4 and 20% on day 8....but basically the tests are not the be all and end all... Laboratory professionals across the U.S. and the globe have used RT-PCR to find out if a person has been infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. These tests have played a critical role in our nation's response to the pandemic. But, while they are important, researchers at Johns Hopkins have found that the chance of a false negative result -- when a virus is not detected in a person who actually is, or recently has been, infected -- is greater than 1 in 5 and, at times, far higher. The researchers caution that the predictive value of these tests may not always yield accurate results, and timing of the test seems to matter greatly in the accuracy.
In the report on the findings published May 13 in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, the researchers found that the probability of a false negative result decreases from 100% on Day 1 of being infected to 67% on Day 4. The false negative rate decreased to 20% on Day 8 (three days after a person begins experiencing symptoms). They also found that on the day a person started experiencing actual symptoms of illness, the average false negative rate was 38%. In addition, the false negative rate began to increase again from 21% on Day 9 to 66% on Day 21. Reliability of tests
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/13/2020 06:07 AM
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Love that they post the pictures. Keeps me current on who/where to avoid.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/13/2020 08:49 AM
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I know them, Scubaman. They are all close friends who have been in quarantine and trust each other. They claim they wear masks when going places such as grocery stores, whee they don't know everyone they come in contact with. However, I share your concern and personally would be wearing a mask. I don't think knowing people makes them safe to be with. They do go other places and they don't know when they may be in contact with someone with the virus. If they want to socialize, it would still be nice to follow the safety precautions. I still don't see my grandchildren and it is becoming obvious that we are one of the few that are doing this.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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Aimed at no one in particular--I think we've kind of gone astray here from the topic.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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Most places seem to be requiring a test, which I don't necessarily have a problem with IF one can obtain a test and a quick result, which is a different issue. This question of the insurance in Aruba still bugs me though. The cost seems really excessive to me. For two people for 7 days, it's $210. That seems really high to me. I'm not sure what percentage of Aruba visitors are timeshare people, but I can't imagine most SXM t/s people are going to want to spend that amount per week, just for insurance, in addition to the other stuff. It seems like a boondoggle for the insurance company, to me...
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/13/2020 12:13 PM
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We are still not seeing our grandchildren either. We saw 2 from the window. It has been so difficult but better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/13/2020 12:50 PM
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I'm confused as to how that is different than the original link, other than it doesn't seem as mandatory with regard to the insurance.
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Re: Aruba to open it's borders on Monday
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06/15/2020 06:12 AM
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Yes, we did Linda. Weekends too many people out, although the pictures I saw EARLY were great.
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