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Re: Game Time Part Seven [Re: Carol_Hill] #234751
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I know of Baralo wine, but that doesn't seem to tie the word scramble.

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Not to change the subject but I know we have had a "Piemonte" from wholefoods...I think is was Monte-i-rustico something or other....Tom when this is solved please pm with Piemonte reds for us to try since you know local availability/stores!

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Not Torino (Turin)
Hint 3 answers Ellen's guess sad

Help you with hint 2

Nleboilbo (it is what Barolo and the unknown pic have in common)

Beerman - will do on the wine when solved

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Re: Game Time Part Seven [Re: Carol_Hill] #234760
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Don't know if there is such a place, but trying your word scramble Il Bonoble - sounds like an Italian town to me!

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Sorry Fred... Wrong Scramble - Hint: It is the name of a grape that the region is known for. I am a wine geek.... sorry

Sorry Beerman... Not Bra, ahhhhh but that is the e town where Slow Food became Real!

Hint 4 - A very small town and a very BIG wine


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Paper map.....not Asti?

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Donna just said we used to get a Tati Barbera from Piemonte Region, but wholefoods stopped getting it....is there a town of Barbera?

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Nope Barbera is a grape not a place. Some would say Barbera is the little brother of the scrambled word.

One factoid about Barbera... It is supposedly has the chemical make up that makes you sleep
My wife the hospital / health enthusiast did a presentation on Barbera.

Great wine, but is not anywhere near the big brother grape of the region. - IMHO

Surprised Sleepy Chef has not chimed in

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Re: Game Time Part Seven [Re: Carol_Hill] #234776
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Would this be the town of "Barolo" itself? The hint is of a grape type used to make Barolo - Nebbiolo (many moons ago I did my sommelier exam in night school)

See my next post

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I just saw the label image you posted - is that a bottle of Conterno that goes for over €1000? If so, then I do know which town this comes from!


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Zanshin - you are correct the hint is the grape - Nebbiolo.
Nebbiolo is famous for big wines that age for years.

There are two areas where the grape truly shines in Piemonte. Barolo is one, and the picture is the other.

The wine you mentioned, Conterno, does indeed have a village on the label, but not the one in the picture. And you are also correct that it is one of the world's best Barolos -
I am pretty sure it comes from the village of Serralunga d’Alba, which is a sub-area of Barolo. (Not positive)

So the question at hand... Is anybody going to make a Osso Bucco tonight? I highly recommend a Barolo or a ____________________ to enjoy with your meal.
Make sure you decant for at least an hour... especially if the wines are young. (less than 7 years)

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Re: Game Time Part Seven [Re: Carol_Hill] #234779
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Ah, and I was sure it was Monforte d'Alba! Now I'm curious as to what the answer is going to be.


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Barbaresco?

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Monforte d'Alba is also in Barolo

However.....

Beerman's Barbaresco guess is correct!

Great little town. There is church that has been de-sanctified and now serves as the enotecha for the village.
They have a VERY reasonable tasting fee, and all but two Barbaresco wines can be tasted.
And there are 100s maybe a 1000
TomB found a happy place. Walls and walls of Barbaresco

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That was a fun and educational game! Hard to believe it's September already and a continuous travel drought. We are talking about returning to Italy next year, I think biking through the vineyards of the Piemonte Region should be included! Can you please post another pic of your favorite landscape of that region while I search for a pic? ....and if/when you have time for wine recommendations you can leave that bottle of Conterno off $$$$$. ;-)

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Would a picture from another wine region suffice as a carry-over?


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Of course!

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OK, here goes. The grapes in the first picture look pretty beat-up, but they are actually very prized ones to make a special wine. And the second picture shows where, around 1800, this was first discovered.

oops - I didn't mean to post this as the next question! The grapes are Riesling, and they are affected by Botrytis, also called "Noble Rot". The second picture is of Schloss Johannisburg, where modern sweeter/higher alcohol wines was discovered by accident. The story goes as follows:

The legend of sweet Riesling is generally accredited to Schloss Johannisberg in the Rheingau who 'accidentally' created their first 'Spatlese' or late harvest in 1775. The legend goes that the messenger bringing the official order to start picking was robbed on the way. By the time he arrived the grapes had rotted, been infected with Botrytis and were given to the peasants. The peasants brewed their own wonderful wines and the rest is history. It's the Riesling grapes ability to develop high sugar levels while maintaining acidity that produces white wines that age very well. Riesling is produced from dry to very sweet. The sweet, botrytis affected wines are rated in ascending order of sweetness as: Auslese, Beerenauslese and Trockenbeerenauslese.

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Zanshin,

LOVE IT - It is like drinking liquid gold
When people say they do not like sweet wines... I say they have not had a real one.
Cupcake Moscato is cheap white wine with a 1/4 cup of sugar in the bottle... NOT GOOD
I love Beerenauslese wines

Now for Beerman's request
The restaurant sign in the picture is one not to miss. Highly recommend a long lingering lunch!
Welcome to Piemonte

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where were we......

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by the way Tom, is that Barbaresco in the distance through that wire wine glass? Im googling the heck out of Piemonte right now! Vaccine soon come.....

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Time for a clue? This gigantic statue of Neptune was much larger before a WWII bombing raid destroyed the opulent villa it was attached to. Neptune's missing large arms used to hold up a large sea shell and trident, old photos are amazing. Unfortunate for the locals who opposed their fascist regime, so I've read.

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I am pretty sure it is the town of La Morra is on the hill
We had just finished a wonderful tour at Marchesi di Barolo in Barolo
Another really cool town is Monforte d'Alba

The restaurant sign is in another neat town (Serralunga d'Alba) with probably the best view in Barolo

http://www.schiavenza.com/en

Definitely check out movie on web page

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Re: Game Time Part Seven [Re: Zanshin] #234811
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Originally Posted by Zanshin
OK, here goes. The grapes in the first picture look pretty beat-up



They look like the grapes at the bottom of my garden in Spain. They are Muscatel and are used in the region to produce a sweet dessert wine. Unfortunately I only have enough to make about two bottles a year so they get eaten instead. They were ready for picking in July this year which is incredibly early.

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IS that in the Cinque, looks familiar.

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I worked very close to this statue a few years ago...
And speaking of sweet wines... my personal favorite comes from here... Sciacchetrà


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Yes Ellen in the Cinque! I believe that is close enough for this one since there's only 5 villages to guess. Google il Gigante in Monterossa to see the original statue and Villa, pretty cool. Marked the location...

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I'd never heard of Cinque Terre before reading about it here on TTOL. It's amazing really as I've travelled fairly extensively around Mediterranean but had never heard the name. Definitely want to visit when things get back to normal.

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Wow - I would have never guessed that you had not been to the Cinque. Unfortunately, it can get overrun now that the cruise ships have found it.
(Not a slam on cruise ships - Just when the ship has 2500 more people aboard that live in the town it gets overrun quickly)

My favorite two towns are to the East of the Cinque Terre. They are Lerici (pic1) or Porto Venere (pic2)
They are much better for an overnight on a boat. The ferries run regularly.
If you stay in La Spezia the train runs through the mountain to the CT. Maybe a 15 min ride

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Mike, I was trying to find the date and details of the Allied bombing and found some article that says tourism is relatively new to Cinque Terre. 1970's-80's mostly Italians, then some guy named Rick Steve's wrote about it in the 90's and American backpackers started flocking in. Covid certainly hit them hard, but sounds like restaurants etc opened at 50% capacity in June. It is one of our favorite travel memories, we hiked through 4 villages and because the trail was closed we had to train to the last. Tom and Ellen can probably back me up, but it's amazingly beautiful and peaceful. This pic is from Bar Gabbiano on the trail between Vernazza and Corniglia, you can imagine how that hike was from village to village, my wife is looking down at Corniglia, great hike!

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Yes it is beautiful. Had a house on a cliff booked there in a couple of weeks. Pushed it to 2021.

So I am traveling and had to take a picture off my phone. So we will see how fast it goes.

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Originally Posted by BEERMAN
1970's-80's mostly Italians, then some guy named Rick Steve's wrote about it in the 90's and American backpackers started flocking in.
That explains why you all know it and I don't. Travel writers have a lot to answer for!

A while back a Brit writer called Peter Mayle wrote a book called A Year in Provence ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/Year-Provence-Peter-Mayle/dp/0140296034 ) . It was a massive hit in the UK, the BBC turned it into a television series and well-off Brits bought every property within about 20 miles of the main location. Completely spoilt the place for years. Fortunately it's now pretty much forgotten and life for the locals is returning to normal.

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Originally Posted by EllenS
Yes it is beautiful. Had a house on a cliff booked there in a couple of weeks. Pushed it to 2021.

So I am traveling and had to take a picture off my phone. So we will see how fast it goes.
That's Atlantic City isn't it Ellen?

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I am going with the Atlantis complex in the Bahamas


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Winner is Tom B. Thought it might go fast.

Atlantis is the polar opposite of the Cinque.

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Yeah, I knew it the second I saw it, but Tom beat me to it!! Tom has much better pictures than I do anyway! laugh


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Never been there... but it is pretty distinctive and the color of the buildings was the give way.

So how about this one...

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