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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
[Re: beeradley]
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09/24/2020 02:01 PM
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SusanZ...Totally get that. Especially right now. Just thinking in the weeks to come any info regarding who's open would obviously dictate our itinerary when we get there on Dec 4th. Looking forward to seeing your beautiful islands for the first time! In a normal year, everyone starts opening mid-October. Since we've all been without income for many months, everything I can imagine will be open by December 4th. Do you have something in mind you're concerned about? I can ask around if I know what types of places you're think of.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/25/2020 11:10 AM
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Jason-- well it largely depends on restrictions, We are all assuming its a full opening. But is it?I really don't know. Assuming there are charter yacht guests, Foxy's will definitely be opening. We found it comical when tourist board would call us back in April/May and as us when we were opening. Our confusion mainly has to do with the types of activities \we can host, how to market events responsibly and how to execute them. Most things on JVD, Foxy's included is open air so I feel like social distancing won't be overly difficult but it still poses some challenges. We get tons of calls about NYE but really have no idea if we can have the party or what that will look like.
Great point on restrictions. I sure wish we knew more! Since the OP is a charter guest, I guess I was answering based on charter boats operating. Assuming that's true, I can't think of much that would be closed. Even the smaller inside places like Banana's in CGB are already open. Around CGB, the only things I can think of currently closed are Quito's (opening soon) and Bananakeet. Even Anegada has lots of places already open and the rest will certainly open assuming there are charter guests.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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"You can check in but you can't check out?"
There has to be a song in there somewhere.
Where is LandCrab when we need him?
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/25/2020 01:38 PM
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"You can check in but you can't check out?"
There has to be a song in there somewhere.
Where is LandCrab when we need him? Eagles? That ad for the Roach Hotel? Maybe clicking one's heels three times will do the trick.....oh, wait that's from some movie!
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/25/2020 02:30 PM
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Anyone hearing when the BVI will actually publish the rules to enter and exit. If it’s just the airport it will slow things quite a bit. Airfare for the week before Xmas is 304 to STT and 1000 plus to EIS. G With change fees being waived, I would highly recommend changing tickets to SJU where the flights to EIS are more plentiful and less expensive. They won't last long but there are options....
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/25/2020 02:55 PM
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I sometimes try SJU and then a small airline to Beef. I can usually do points to SJU , then pay a premium for the short flight over, but overall not terrible. I just had to cancel my November plans in which i paid 400 RT SJU to Beef, but my NYC to SJU was non stop and points only.... Hope I can something similar when I rebook my charter.... after 4 cancelled Vaca's this year, I am not rebooking until January when i see what has transpired after a months time open. Hoping not like USVI that shut back down for a little while.
Toast.......to Life; White Bay...heaven on earth. Diane
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/29/2020 02:07 PM
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The CDC has released some new Covid 19 data. Hopefully it will help the BVI government in their decision to reopen. The new numbers are in line with the flu. Just booked a 16 Dec trip! G
The US Center for Disease Control (CDC) has released an update to their research on the fatality rate associated with COVID-19. The CDC first posted this data on May 20, 2020, with the understanding that the parameter values would be updated and augmented over time. This update, dated September 10th, is based on data received by CDC through August 8, 2020.
A quick summary of COVID-19 survival rates is shown below. The summary is based on the CDC table provided at the end of this report.
CDC COVID-19 Survival Rates
Age 0-19 — 99.997% Age 20-49 — 99.98% Age 50-69 — 99.5% Age 70+ — 94.6%
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/29/2020 04:52 PM
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I saw those last week.
I'm VERY comfortable getting back to a normal life with those odds!!!
However, the BVI and any country, obviously will do what they do...???
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/29/2020 07:52 PM
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Johns Hopkins, whose data is beyond the influence of elected officials, has the US COVID death rate at 2.9%. The flu fatality rate over many years averages 0.1%. Unless you believe in conspiracy theories, this is different than the flu. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/29/2020 08:16 PM
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This has NOTHING to do with the BVI.. As stated previously, this is not the place to quote all these various Covid stats. Plenty of places to do that other than here.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/30/2020 08:40 AM
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Still waiting for the BVI to get their act together and publish all the fine print to the dec 1 opening. I have tickets on AA that day to STT. It's about time that they stop worrying about midwifes and go to the more important issues like their economy. Also stop the fighting with the governor.. it's ridiculous.
This morning the premier has written to the UN about the governor bringing in the UK military ship and wants the UN to intervene. Seems to me lots of issues are being brought up to hide the mismanagement going on.
Premier Andrew Fahie has put Britain on notice that he will be escalating to the United Nations what he described as an “act of aggression” by Governor Augustus Jaspert towards his government
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/30/2020 12:19 PM
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We are flying in on 12-02-20 for a 12 day charter and are counting the days. If anyone is concerned about the Ferry service they may want to look into a private water taxi. We use Ocean Dreams and they are first class. They have a 39 foot center console with 1200 horse power that is a blast. Unless they open the ports for ferries, water taxis will most likely not be able to operate.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/30/2020 12:39 PM
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Jason--that's what I was thinking.. As of now, I really think people need to be thinking about flying into EIS, as booking air into STT right now seems very risky, unless you can CANCEL and get your money back. I haven't been following it that closely, but I think most airlines are allowing changes without change fees still, but what happens if the new fare is LESS than the old one?? Say that one decides to just fly into SJU and purchase a different ticket onward? If that ticket costs less than your original flight to STT, will you get money back?
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/30/2020 12:57 PM
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There are lots of moving parts, but there won't be any boat traffic between the USVI and the BVI unless Customs and Immigration is re-activated in ports and harbors. Throughout the Covid-19 " lockdown" the only C&I ( point of entry) was EIS. It will be some more " wait and see" before we know how any testing/extra questions/required documentation at entry to the country will be handled.
Yeah, everyone is sick and tired of wait-and-see. It's called Island Time or " soon come". Part of what we go there to love and experience.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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09/30/2020 01:11 PM
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Jason--that's what I was thinking.. As of now, I really think people need to be thinking about flying into EIS, as booking air into STT right now seems very risky, unless you can CANCEL and get your money back. I haven't been following it that closely, but I think most airlines are allowing changes without change fees still, but what happens if the new fare is LESS than the old one?? Say that one decides to just fly into SJU and purchase a different ticket onward? If that ticket costs less than your original flight to STT, will you get money back? There is an alternative to fly to STT and use VI Airlink to get to EIS. Looking at a random day in mid-January, it looks like they have 2 flights/day planned; 9:50am and 4:00pm. $151 per person.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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Jason--OK, thanks for that correction. Your idea of flying to SJU is still the best option and is what we're recommending to anyone booking rooms before February. Many more flight options from SJU. From what I can tell, the VI Airlink flight only carries 9 passengers so not much capacity but if you're locked into STT for some reason it's an option.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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If that ticket costs less than your original flight to STT, will you get money back?
Carol, We canceled our June flights and got UA credit. We rebooked for January on UA for $200 less per ticket. That left over credit is still out there and we have two years to use it. That will not be a problem.
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Re: BVI Opening December 1st 2020 to International Tourism
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OK, I figure it depends on the airline, as to what they are doing NOW, for people booking now.. I would always also prefer my money back, versus a credit, but we don't fly that often either.
Carol Hill
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