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No Change to Entry Protocols?
#260812
07/18/2021 10:44 AM
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So much conflicting info. I want to verify there is no change to entry protocols for vaccinated travelers, a 'rapid antigen' test is still approved for the Gateway Application? Apparently our return to St. Thomas is requiring a PCR test for our three kids, the rest of us have positive antibodies test results. Thanks, we arrive next Saturday at Voyage Charters.
Noel Hall "It is humbling indeed, to discover my own opinion is only correct less than 50% of the time." www.noelhall.com
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
#260830
07/18/2021 01:46 PM
07/18/2021 01:46 PM
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Will_L
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I don’t think it has changed much on entry. Leaving is the big problem
Last edited by Will_L; 07/18/2021 01:46 PM.
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
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07/18/2021 03:20 PM
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GeorgeC1
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The change is that you will now be tested on arrival and will need to quarantine until those results come back. Not a big deal to spend a night or two at a quarantine anchorage. Your return to the USVI is however going to be a problem. There is no way to get tested for the return to the USVI in 48 hours prior to travel. Most testing in the BVI is done at 7:30 to 8 AM which means your earliest testing opportunity is the day prior to travel and that’s not going to work. I would rebook your return to fly through SJU.
Last edited by GeorgeC1; 07/18/2021 06:08 PM.
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
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07/18/2021 05:50 PM
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NoelHall
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Henrietta confirmed negative rapid antigen is okay for vaccinated folks coming in. Yep, the problem will be getting back to St. Thomas because of the three children. The rest of us all have antibody tests.
Noel Hall "It is humbling indeed, to discover my own opinion is only correct less than 50% of the time." www.noelhall.com
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: GeorgeC1]
#260841
07/18/2021 07:31 PM
07/18/2021 07:31 PM
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JasonHelmbrecht
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The change is that you will now be tested on arrival and will need to quarantine until those results come back. Not a big deal to spend a night or two at a quarantine anchorage. Your return to the USVI is however going to be a problem. There is no way to get tested for the return to the USVI in 48 hours prior to travel. Most testing in the BVI is done at 7:30 to 8 AM which means your earliest testing opportunity is the day prior to travel and that’s not going to work. I would rebook your return to fly through SJU. There is no quarantine for vaccinated arrivals. Well, technically there is a 15 minute quarantine at the port of arrival while you wait for your rapid test results but after that no need to take your boat to a quarantine anchorage if you're vaccinated. There was a small glitch this week because the rapid tests weren't ready on 12 July as promised and some people were told the needed to quarantine. The Tourist Board sent an email on Tuesday clarifying that even though they were using a PCR test and would not have results quickly, the vaccinated guests were " free to explore the destination immediately upon completion of the RT-PCR arrival/Day 0) test without the need for quarantine". I don't have a link to post but if anyone needs the email for reference I'm happy to forward. Send me a private message and I will share.
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
#260854
07/19/2021 08:26 AM
07/19/2021 08:26 AM
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Things are changing fast and your data is probably more current. When I left on the 12th I inquired about the new requirements. I was told a quarantine was required until negative test results were received. My understanding is unvaccinated travelers can’t use the quick test. Again things may have changed. They said this applied to all unvaccinated travelers.
Last edited by GeorgeC1; 07/19/2021 08:27 AM.
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
#260874
07/19/2021 01:03 PM
07/19/2021 01:03 PM
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Will_L
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That’s just not a strategy in this environment..in fact it is worthless Ron. I’m here waiting for second bite of the exit apple. Nothing you said would change that..indeed would only complicate the problem. Your comment should be totally ignored.
Last edited by Will_L; 07/19/2021 01:05 PM.
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
#260876
07/19/2021 01:23 PM
07/19/2021 01:23 PM
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I just got an answer from BVIHSA asking how long it takes them to give results. With my limited English I have to admit that I couldn't understand the answer: Good Day,
Yes the results will bew ready.
Covid-19 Hotline
<sigh>
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
#260885
07/19/2021 03:11 PM
07/19/2021 03:11 PM
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Yes, but my question was "How long will it take to get the results?"
So will they be ready in 24, 48, 72 or more hours? They answered a question, but not the one I asked.
Last edited by Zanshin; 07/19/2021 03:12 PM.
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
#260886
07/19/2021 03:41 PM
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Well Zanshin with two exit tests and a “retest” after a “weak positive” on the first though fully vaccinated and nearly complexly isolated before that test for 3 week before first test, I’d be leery of making hard and fast plans. I’ve had results late afternoon/evening of the seCond day..more than 48 hrs post sample but less than the earliest departure from island on day 3.. that rules out the STT route.
Through a.combination of unforeseen circumstances I hope that continues or we will have to retest again and change flights at more expense and add another week.
Getting here is easy. Leaving is not as certain. I have decided to never again go anywhere if it requires a negative test to get back into the states. Testing here is not state of the art by any means. YMMV.
Indeed it is much like Hotel California “Such a beautiful place” “you can check out anytime, but you can never leave”
Last edited by Will_L; 07/19/2021 03:59 PM.
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
#260888
07/19/2021 04:57 PM
07/19/2021 04:57 PM
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After over 40 e-mails to various government entities on various islands today (St. Martin, Sint Maarten, St. Barths, St. Kitts & Nevis, Antigua & Barbuda, Dominica, Guadeloupe, Martinique and St. Lucia) I've finally found a solution that doesn't force me into a 7 or 14 day quarantine. St. Lucia says that if I arrive with an outdated PCR test older than 72hours prior to arrival they will give me a test and quarantine me until the results arrive a day later. Bingo! St. Lucia is 2-3 Days sail at 145 degrees, which the current winds should allow in a straight run. So now all I have to do is wait for Customs to either give me permission to leave, or permission to stay.
But it is reminiscent of Hotel California. Or quantum theory and Schrödinger's cat!
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: Zanshin]
#260893
07/19/2021 05:35 PM
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After over 40 e-mails to various government entities on various islands today (St. Martin, Sint Maarten, St. Barths, St. Kitts & Nevis, Antigua & Barbuda, Dominica, Guadeloupe, Martinique and St. Lucia) I've finally found a solution that doesn't force me into a 7 or 14 day quarantine. St. Lucia says that if I arrive with an outdated PCR test older than 72hours prior to arrival they will give me a test and quarantine me until the results arrive a day later. Bingo! St. Lucia is 2-3 Days sail at 145 degrees, which the current winds should allow in a straight run. So now all I have to do is wait for Customs to either give me permission to leave, or permission to stay.
But it is reminiscent of Hotel California. Or quantum theory and Schrödinger's cat! wow yeah that sounds totally reasonable, I am curious maybe this was mentioned and I missed it, could you have gone to the USVI and travelled from there?
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: MIDiver]
#260897
07/19/2021 10:13 PM
07/19/2021 10:13 PM
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Zanshin good luck to you - if you find yourself in the Piton Bay inlet mooring field watch those balls - lots of reports of failing/failed moorings.
Rob - connect with me before you go to SL. Major advice.
will do my friend...low on list as of now. USVI and JVD land based in fall
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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07/20/2021 12:19 PM
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JasonHelmbrecht
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The operation at JVD us very well run and efficient. They should take the woman in charge and let her reorganize the BVI government! Was it Tina? Lady with a German accent?
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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07/20/2021 08:15 PM
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GeorgeC1
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Good luck, Zanshin! This should not be this hard! Try getting a fishing license in the BVI the last year!
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Re: No Change to Entry Protocols?
[Re: NoelHall]
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07/21/2021 09:34 AM
07/21/2021 09:34 AM
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Good Luck! Hope you are on your way to St Lucia soon!
Matt
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