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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: SacoFrank]
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03/16/2022 01:09 PM
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GeorgeC1
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It’s the same issue DYC had two days ago. They are going around to all the charter companies and inspecting. I am not sure the specific issue. It is not for non payment of customs money. It’s safety gear. Might and I say that because it’s a rumor at this point deal with propane systems.
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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: MIDiver]
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03/16/2022 03:22 PM
03/16/2022 03:22 PM
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Husker
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Much of it is safety related. Requirements shared in October. TMM was on it asap - we ended up with some outlays but everything was completed well in advance of deadlines. MIDiver - Your boat? Can you share about what sort of things needed to be addressed?
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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: mhdonohue]
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03/16/2022 04:39 PM
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Thirsty_Toad
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This is very concerning. I have chartered a Cat for 8 of us which starts on April 2nd through Sunsail. Does anyone know if this type of situation is resolved quickly? The SS agent I spoke with made it sound like they are just waiting on the Govt to approve the paperwork. I would hope this process is done in the 3 weeks before your charter begins. I'm on a new 454P with the flying bridge and water maker. Pretty excited about being able to take Hollywood Showers and not worry about getting water 1/2 through the charter like usual.
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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: SacoFrank]
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03/17/2022 10:16 AM
03/17/2022 10:16 AM
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captmoby
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I recently had to renew the TIP for my boat. It use to be the the marina could do it for you and it was a easy simple process. Now they insist that the owner does it not a representative.. After over a month of the rules changing such as different documents needed than what are currently listed then requiring some of them to be notarized. All must be attached to the renewal request in a single PDF file. After 10 documents I finally got the renewal. I have owned a boat there for over 20 years and never was it such a difficult process.
Jim Sailmoby II
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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: SacoFrank]
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03/17/2022 02:45 PM
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TomGarvey
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It sure isn't a way to help get toursim back on its feet. Kudos to Conch, BYIYC, TMM, Voyage and others for complying on time. Fining The Moorings, Sunsail & Dream would have driven home the point and penalized the culprits without screwing up 100's of people's vacations and creating the risk of some seriously bad word of mouth.
Tom Garvey
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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: SacoFrank]
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03/21/2022 09:07 AM
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Watching the press conference https://www.facebook.com/BVIGovernment/videos/336867768257013 I think I'm starting to get a picture of how this happened. This is IMO of course. * A number of BVI paperwork and safety requirements have gone unenforced for years. * A UK shipping audit highlighted enforcement gaps. * VISR committed to closing these gaps by now demanding compliance. * Customs/VISR set a deadline for completion. * Some charter operators took the tack of "we're doing this as quickly as possible, supply chain, labor, etc." and gambled that authorities were bluffing.
M4000 "Lio Kai"
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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: Nibj]
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03/22/2022 01:06 PM
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Carol_Hill
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One wonders whether BVI officials read this board or any others?
Carol Hill
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Re: The Moorings Boats Seized
[Re: SacoFrank]
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03/22/2022 01:20 PM
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MrEZgoin
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I suspect (speculation!) part of the issue is that some of the shipping regulations aren't really readily applicable to pleasure boats in the charter fleet. Classifying them as "commercial vessels" brings a lot of largely irrelevant and onerous paperwork and regulations that has been tacitly ignored by both sides until the UK audit.
As far as Moorings being slow in "complying", it is also very possible that the rate at which they can get these boats' licenses sorted out involves submitting paperwork applications to BVI agencies which may not turn them around in the expeditious manner that the situation requires.
With so little known, I for one am not rushing to judgment on any side.
M4000 "Lio Kai"
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