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Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling #43868 03/05/2015 02:24 PM 03/05/2015 02:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 1 T tbart OP Member
tbart OP Member T Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 1	Great board for information! If you had to choose snorkeling Monkey Point or the Dogs due to time constraints, which is better. We have gobs of kids with us (8-14), so we don't want anything too technical until they get their sea legs. Thanks in advance

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Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: tbart] #43869 03/05/2015 02:26 PM 03/05/2015 02:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 828 Redmond, WA MrEZgoin Traveler
MrEZgoin Traveler Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 828 Redmond, WA	Dogs are better and IME the conditions are far more consistent. Visibility at Monkey Point is hit or miss. M4000 "Lio Kai"

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: MrEZgoin] #43870 03/05/2015 02:34 PM 03/05/2015 02:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA lookinatfifty Traveler
lookinatfifty Traveler Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA	I've experienced a strong outgoing current at Monkey Point in the past and we've been snorkeling The Dogs ever since. Planning to bring tanks this trip so we're been more excited by The Dogs!

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: lookinatfifty] #43871 03/05/2015 02:42 PM 03/05/2015 02:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL Winterstale Traveler
Winterstale Traveler Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL	We have never stopped at the Dogs and are thinking of doing that on the way up to Leverick -- where is the best place to stop??

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43872 03/05/2015 02:52 PM 03/05/2015 02:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA lookinatfifty Traveler
lookinatfifty Traveler Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA	There are Parks Service balls at Great Dog, that's been our only stop there so far...

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43873 03/05/2015 02:54 PM 03/05/2015 02:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,199 Devon, UK salica Traveler
salica Traveler Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,199 Devon, UK	The Dogs make an excellent stop en route to Leverick. The conditions at George Dog are generally Ok but there is often too much of a swell at Great Dog. Couple of daytime bouys at each spot. Snorkelling is good at both. On the one occasion we did manage to stop at Great Dog I felt that I was inside my own screen saver. It was just fabulous against the wall.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: salica] #43874 03/05/2015 03:02 PM 03/05/2015 03:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA lookinatfifty Traveler
lookinatfifty Traveler Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA	We've always been down late May/ early June and had very good conditions, with the exception of some small jellyfish. With the scuba gear this time I'm excited about diving the Chimneys.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: lookinatfifty] #43875 03/05/2015 03:09 PM 03/05/2015 03:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,678 An island state of mind tradewinds Traveler
tradewinds Traveler Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,678 An island state of mind	The airplane fuselage on the South side of Great Dog is pretty cool to see.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: tradewinds] #43876 03/05/2015 03:15 PM 03/05/2015 03:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA lookinatfifty Traveler
lookinatfifty Traveler Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 320 TAMPA BAY, USA	I'd almost forgotten about that.... Thanks! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: lookinatfifty] #43877 03/05/2015 03:58 PM 03/05/2015 03:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL Winterstale Traveler
Winterstale Traveler Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL	Thanks all -- really looking forward to stopping on this trip!!

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43878 03/05/2015 04:06 PM 03/05/2015 04:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,213 GJ, CO S/V Long Overdue sail2wind Traveler
sail2wind Traveler Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,213 GJ, CO S/V Long Overdue	Great George, find the chimneys, really cool.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: sail2wind] #43879 03/05/2015 04:21 PM 03/05/2015 04:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL Winterstale Traveler
Winterstale Traveler Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL	Thanks Evan - where are they?

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43880 03/05/2015 04:28 PM 03/05/2015 04:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,213 GJ, CO S/V Long Overdue sail2wind Traveler
sail2wind Traveler Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,213 GJ, CO S/V Long Overdue	Matt, need a little help here. Check some of the dive website, they have dive site locations.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43881 03/05/2015 04:29 PM 03/05/2015 04:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts maytrix Traveler
maytrix Traveler Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts	The chimney is a dive site. Even non divers should pick up the dive guide frank sells. It highlights good snorkel sites too. Chimney is on the west side of great dog. 5-6 mooring balls there. Lots to see! Matt

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: maytrix] #43882 03/05/2015 04:49 PM 03/05/2015 04:49 PM
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 93 H Harleyk Traveler
Harleyk Traveler H Joined: May 2013 Posts: 93	Well I haven't been to the Dogs but I've never seen more tarpon up close than at Monkey Point. It was our favorite snorkel stop and we'll definitely return in May.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43883 03/05/2015 05:29 PM 03/05/2015 05:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,100 Maryland Twanger Traveler
Twanger Traveler Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,100 Maryland	I like both!

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Twanger] #43884 03/05/2015 05:41 PM 03/05/2015 05:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts maytrix Traveler
maytrix Traveler Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts	Monkey point is hit or miss. The Dogs are almost always excellent - at least at the Chimney. Never had a bad dive/snorkel there. Matt

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: maytrix] #43885 03/05/2015 05:43 PM 03/05/2015 05:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL Winterstale Traveler
Winterstale Traveler Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL	Thanks Matt! We're actually planning to hit both on this trip!

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43886 03/05/2015 05:47 PM 03/05/2015 05:47 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts maytrix Traveler
maytrix Traveler Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,720 Massachusetts	That's always the best bet - hit em both. If Monkey point is on a miss day, you can simply move on. Matt

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: tradewinds] #43887 03/05/2015 06:05 PM 03/05/2015 06:05 PM
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Breeze Traveler Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901 Maine	Quote tradewinds said: The airplane fuselage on the South side of Great Dog is pretty cool to see. 3 friends of ours were on that plane when it went into the water off the end of the Beef Island runway. A few years later, after they had qualiied for SCUBA, 2 of those folks dove on the site where the plane is now and have pictures of themselves seated in the seats they were assigned for the original flight from EIS to SJU. Just so you know, no one was injured in the original accident. Essentially, the plane never really " took off" , they gained a couple feet of air but splashed immediately. ( There is a good reason for baggage weight limitations, and don't get too torqued if your stuff gets delayed). Breeze

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Breeze] #43888 03/05/2015 06:11 PM 03/05/2015 06:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL Winterstale Traveler
Winterstale Traveler Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,861 Bradenton, FL	Quote Breeze said: Quote tradewinds said: The airplane fuselage on the South side of Great Dog is pretty cool to see. 3 friends of ours were on that plane when it went into the water off the end of the Beef Island runway. A few years later, after they had qualiied for SCUBA, 2 of those folks dove on the site where the plane is now and have pictures of themselves seated in the seats they were assigned for the original flight from EIS to SJU. Just so you know, no one was injured in the original accident. Essentially, the plane never really " took off" , they gained a couple feet of air but splashed immediately. ( There is a good reason for baggage weight limitations, and don't get too torqued if your stuff gets delayed). Breeze Now THAT is a cool story!

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Winterstale] #43889 03/05/2015 07:05 PM 03/05/2015 07:05 PM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 828 Redmond, WA MrEZgoin Traveler
MrEZgoin Traveler Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 828 Redmond, WA	I like Great Dog best... we usually stop there several times each trip. There can be some surge. The sunken airplane is cool, but too deep for snorkeling. M4000 "Lio Kai"

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling #43890 03/05/2015 07:18 PM 03/05/2015 07:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,003 S sail445 Traveler
sail445 Traveler S Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,003	Wow!! Was anyone else injured? It must have been pretty hairy crash landing at at least 100 mph.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Twanger] #43891 03/05/2015 07:57 PM 03/05/2015 07:57 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,429 Villa Euphoria Leverick Bay, P... mdoyle9999 Traveler
mdoyle9999 Traveler Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,429 Villa Euphoria Leverick Bay, P...	We like both too. Mike "The journey is the thing." Homer

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: sail445] #43892 03/05/2015 07:58 PM 03/05/2015 07:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901 Maine Breeze Traveler
Breeze Traveler Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901 Maine	No one was injured, thats about the extent of it. Plane landing gear clipped the end-of-runway barrier and then the water, there was no violent crash , just a water glide. IIRC, the water depth when the pax were evacuated was about 15', so certainly not very far off shore. I think I was told it was about a 200 yard swim. I don't rememer the name of the air company, but it was not a US airline. -- believe it was April of 1988 when it happened. Interesting that there never was an FAA report or finding. Breeze

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: Breeze] #43893 03/11/2015 12:41 PM 03/11/2015 12:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 966 Middleburg, VA cwoody Traveler
cwoody Traveler Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 966 Middleburg, VA	From Wikipedia: Terrance B. Lettsome International Airport "On 6 May 1993, a Short 330 turboprop operated by Atlantic Air BVI overran the runway and landed in the sea after aborting on takeoff. It was a passenger flight, and all passengers and crew survived. The airframe was damaged beyond economic repair, and was sunk as a scuba diving site off Great Dog Island" Go for the DOGS... Chuck W.

Re: Monkey Point or Dogs for Snorkeling [Re: cwoody] #43894 03/12/2015 01:20 AM 03/12/2015 01:20 AM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 364 Whidbey Island, WA Capnmike Traveler
Capnmike Traveler Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 364 Whidbey Island, WA	Agree with the dogs, spent a couple of days there exploring all over. Shallow reefs for snorkelers and great spots for SCUBA. More variety than Monkey Point and less crowded. We will hit it a couple of times in June.

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