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clear in fee #45668
03/15/2015 10:33 AM
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Anyone know what the current check in fee is or how it works?

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Re: clear in fee [Re: BTB] #45669
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Are you looking for information on what is involved in clearing a boat (private or charter) into the BVI? Or information on the ferry system fees?

Re: clear in fee [Re: Zanshin] #45670
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or flying in?

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail2wind] #45671
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use Sailclear its free

Re: clear in fee [Re: busyengineer] #45672
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you can not bypass customs in BVI with sailclear

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail2wind] #45673
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Why is it that you can arrive by ferry for "free" but have to pay a fee to arrive by boat?

Re: clear in fee [Re: busyengineer] #45674
03/17/2015 11:43 AM
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fees must be built into the ferry charge. What we find funny is every time we check in the amount is different. It can range from .75-$5, have no idea why?

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail2wind] #45675
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fees must be built into the ferry charge. What we find funny is every time we check in the amount is different. It can range from .75-$5, have no idea why?


Especially at the West End.

Re: clear in fee [Re: rhans] #45676
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Did not get the answer I was looking for. Checked in last week and paid $10.00. Time before, about three weeks ago, paid $42.00. Would sure like to know how they come up with the charge.

Re: clear in fee [Re: BTB] #45677
03/22/2015 02:46 AM
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Did not get the answer I was looking for. Checked in last week and paid $10.00. Time before, about three weeks ago, paid $42.00. Would sure like to know how they come up with the charge.
They use a random number generator. No point looking for logic or consistency, there isn't any.

Re: clear in fee [Re: BTB] #45678
03/22/2015 08:29 AM
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Did not get the answer I was looking for. Checked in last week and paid $10.00. Time before, about three weeks ago, paid $42.00. Would sure like to know how they come up with the charge.

It may depend on if you are clearing in for the first time for the calendar year. When we cleared in last time they were asking everyone when they had last cleared in.

Re: clear in fee [Re: rhans] #45679
03/22/2015 09:03 AM
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fees must be built into the ferry charge. What we find funny is every time we check in the amount is different. It can range from .75-$5, have no idea why?


Especially at the West End.


If you arrive at C&I at West End when they open at 8am they know you arrived before 8 which is against their rules and they charge a fee of $5.

Re: clear in fee [Re: BTB] #45680
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Did not get the answer I was looking for. Checked in last week and paid $10.00. Time before, about three weeks ago, paid $42.00. Would sure like to know how they come up with the charge.

There are different fees depending on whether you arrived on a charter boat or Private boat.

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail445] #45681
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One thing to remember. You must present the boat for inspection. Do not under any circumstances sail to White Bay on Jost and cab or walk over to customs. The boat has to be in great harbor if you clear there. Same with west end. Never actually heard of them inspecting a boat but the fine is huge if it's not there.
George

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They inspected my boat at West End when arrived from St Maarten, I asked why and was told I'm supposed to check in at VG

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail445] #45683
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One is supposed to clear in at the first available port of entry, so when arriving from St. Martin it should be Gun Creek, Spanish Town and Road Town - but the West End and Jost are too far and one could get in trouble when clearing in, depending upon the officer and their mood for the day.

Due to a back injury while sailing across from St. Martin a couple of years back I couldn't get the dinghy off the deck (I singlehand) so went to the dock at Leverick and immediately took a cab into Spanish Town to clear in. The officers were not amused at all and I think that only my obvious pain at trying to stand up straight convinced them to only give me a stern verbal warning rather than a steep fine.

Re: clear in fee [Re: Zanshin] #45684
03/22/2015 02:51 PM
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I thought "proceed directly to a port of entry" meant no stopping (no anchoring, mooring or tying up to anything) but I've been wrong before...


Life involves risks, take some prudent ones (NOT with the BVI ferries)!
Re: clear in fee [Re: beerMe] #45685
03/22/2015 03:04 PM
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how can you check in without anchoring or mooring?

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail2wind] #45686
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The first time your anchor touches bottom or lines hit a {customs} dock should be at your port of entry. Some countries have a quarantine/clear-in area specifically for this purpose, or they have a customs dock.

Re: clear in fee [Re: Zanshin] #45687
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One is supposed to clear in at the first available port of entry, so when arriving from St. Martin it should be Gun Creek, Spanish Town and Road Town - but the West End and Jost are too far and one could get in trouble when clearing in, depending upon the officer and their mood for the day.

Due to a back injury while sailing across from St. Martin a couple of years back I couldn't get the dinghy off the deck (I singlehand) so went to the dock at Leverick and immediately took a cab into Spanish Town to clear in. The officers were not amused at all and I think that only my obvious pain at trying to stand up straight convinced them to only give me a stern verbal warning rather than a steep fine.

I came into the BVI between Peter and Norman right after sun up so West End was the closest. I single hand also but my back is in good shape. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />

Re: clear in fee [Re: Jeannius] #45688
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Hi Mike, nice to see you are still out there. We are heading down to charter a 44i with Conch 4/16. We'll see what the charges are then. ......... Red Gray

Re: clear in fee [Re: REDGRAY] #45689
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Hi Mike, nice to see you are still out there. We are heading down to charter a 44i with Conch 4/16. We'll see what the charges are then. ......... Red Gray


Well, you won't have any charges since your charter is from the BVI. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail445] #45690
03/23/2015 09:10 AM
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They inspected my boat at West End when arrived from St Maarten, I asked why and was told I'm supposed to check in at VG


They might have thought that, in addition to visiting St. Martin for your own enjoyment, you also went there to load up on boat parts/equipment from a duty-free island to then bring back to the BVI and avoid their import duties.


Rob
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Thanks sail445. redgray

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Probably a lot of things we don't know about that might have flagged them or maybe five different interpretations of the rules.
Mysterious!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail445] #45693
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You do have to consider that USVI based charters have to pay the cruising permit of $2/ day per person. Don't confuse that with the clearance fee.


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Re: clear in fee [Re: GlennA] #45694
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I have never been charged the same fee twice - always different - every time. Do they just make it up or something? Seriously.

Tradewinds dude please don't flog/flain/fillet me I'm chillin' and haven't had my first cup of coffee yet but if you must then fire away! I can take it!

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The C&I of the BVI are unique in that each one interprets the law the way they feel it should be so consistency is out of the question. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />

Re: clear in fee [Re: REDGRAY] #45696
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Hi Mike, nice to see you are still out there. We are heading down to charter a 44i with Conch 4/16. We'll see what the charges are then. ......... Red Gray
Hi Red

Yes, still around but now boatless. Sold Jeannius just over a year ago.

Re: clear in fee [Re: Jeannius] #45697
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busyengineer, lighten up, every post does not need a Tradewinds disclaimer.

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail2wind] #45698
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For three recent entries into the BVI with owners and guests from St Thomas, each entry was interpreted differently by three different BVI Customs agents resulting in three different fee structures. The first one charged full fees as if we were a charter boat. Second charged minimal fees as he entered us as a private yacht. The third one was somewhere in between where only the owners guests had to pay for cruising permit and National Parks.....Go figure......


Safe and enjoyable boating.
Re: clear in fee [Re: Yachtmaster] #45699
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Yachtmaster,
Have you heard of Sailclearin in BVI? I know it works in the French Islands. BVI is listed on their website, but have not talked to one local who knows anything about it working in BVI. I find it hard to believe BVI would allow online check in without associated fees. There is a TTOL user who swears it works.

Re: clear in fee [Re: sail2wind] #45700
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Have you heard of Sailclearin in BVI? I know it works in the French Islands. BVI is listed on their website, but have not talked to one local who knows anything about it working in BVI. I find it hard to believe BVI would allow online check in without associated fees. There is a TTOL user who swears it works.


Evan, how could SeaClear work in the BVIís? It would require consistency in the rates and/or procedures. Canít see that happening although it would be GREAT.

Re: clear in fee [Re: rhans] #45701
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Scary stuff. I have been using seaclear - sailclear and they always say something like "congratulations you have successfully cleared in"

These folks still use a dot matrix printer so I am very wary of this process. .

I contacted Premier Smith (yes we email PM a lot) on this very issue but have not received a response yet. Will keep y'all posted

I think in the interim I may just clear in/out the old fashioned way smile

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