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Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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03/29/2015 05:30 PM
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Hi All:
My cousin and I have booked a Moorings 37.2 for a week in the BVI at the end of May. Its just us two guys this trip. We chartered the same model last year and we were happy overall, although there were some ergonomic design issues that we weren't thrilled about. Moorings has availability to upgrade us to a 43.3 for about $400 more dollars. Keeping in mind that it is just the two of us, I'm interested in hearing if some of you experienced bareboaters think it would be worth the extra money and why.
Your advice is greatly appreciated as always!
Mark
Last edited by MarkS; 03/29/2015 10:42 PM.
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 44.3
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sail445 said: Out of curiosity what were some of the design issues you weren't pleased about? Using the grill was extremely awkward. The stanchions from the bimini got in the way so you needed to reach around them with the fork or spatula. I wound up burning my forearm! The problem was that the cockpit area was so small that there really was no better place to put the grill. Also the Freezer was too small even for two people. These are nit-picky complaints really. As I said, we are happy to charter the same boat again, but if it all the same we would prefer something better. Incidentally, the boat sailed better than we expected.
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 44.3
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03/29/2015 10:15 PM
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$400 is well worth it. We own a 43.3 and I'd be miserable on the 37. It's just too cramped. The dual helms give a lot more room in the cockpit as well as having much more room to move around in the galley..etc. Cabins are also roomier. Two cabins have their own head and then there's also a 3rd head.
My wife and I have spent a number of weeks on our boat just the two of us and love it.
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 44.3
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03/30/2015 01:15 PM
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Have sailed both, not even close the 44.3 is by far a better cruising and sailing boat.
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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I think the 44.3 reference was just a typo in the last few posts. That is not a boat Moorings has in the fleet anymore as far as I'm aware.
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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03/31/2015 06:39 PM
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Thanks everybody for your responses. I was referring the the 43.3. The 44.3 reference was a typo on my part and it got traction. Now the bad news... I called yesterday to upgrade and was told that the price had changed. The differential is now $700+. I'll keep checking back but $700 goes a long way to covering our expenses for the week. If the price comes back down I will definitely try the bigger boat.
Thanks again for the advice.
Mark Shichtman "Live for Today!"
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
[Re: MarkS]
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03/31/2015 08:16 PM
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Might want to call back and press them on the discount. The closer you get the more likely they'll budge too.
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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I always like to consider how long a boat has been in the fleet. The Moorings charges more for the newest boats, but after 16 sails with the Moorings, it is well worth it to go with new when you can. Saltwater and boats just don't get along as time passes!
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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denverd0n said: My wife and I usually try to charter boats even smaller than the 37.2. I see no reason to spend more money just to have more space to spread out in. We have spent two weeks on a 32' boat and were perfectly comfortable.
And before you say, well that's a man and woman, they don't need as much space. I have also done charters on a 28' boat with a buddy of mine. Even on a 28' boat the saloon is plenty big enough for two people. So is the cockpit. So long as you have two berths, how much more space do you need?
Your money, you choice, of course. For me (and my wife), though, it would most definitely not be worth the extra cost! I 100% agree. My wife and I were perfectly comfortable on the Sunsail 32' boat last year. As they called it the "baby boat". However this year we are chartering a big cat with a big group. Mostly since the group wanted the bigger boat. Sitting on the back of the boat at sunset sipping a little rum, no matter what size it is, is always better than sitting anywhere here in the Midwest. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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I'm a big fan of the extra room. But another benefit to the 43.3 is the shore power A/C.
Matt
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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jboothe said: Sitting on the back of the boat at sunset sipping a little rum, no matter what size it is, is always better than sitting anywhere else. Fixed it for you. And that's really the bottom line, isn't it?
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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jboothe said: Sitting on the back of the boat at sunset sipping a little rum, no matter what size it is, is always better than sitting anywhere else. Definately brings it back in to prospective! Thanks! I will call them closer to the trip and see if they are interested in offering us a deal to upgrade. If not, we will certainly be happy with what we have!!!
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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04/06/2015 12:04 PM
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Just got back from the VI, so I'm late to the discussion. We looked at the 37.2 and 43.3 layouts when we were boat shopping. The 37.2 v-berth was small for two, but would be fine for one. I do like the 37.2's L-shaped galley vs. the 43.3's port-side straight galley.
I was on a Cyclades 43 for sailing school and she was fine to sail. The dual helm allowed you to work helm as well as jib lines without shuffling people. I heard from multiple brokers that the Cyclades 43 suffers from a lot of flex and the stringers are just tabbed in instead of being attached for their full length that can result in detached stringers and shifting bulkheads. Depending on the boat, you might get some exciting flexing in the kind of big seas and high winds we saw last week.
If it was me, I wouldn't pay $400 more for the 43.3. The 41.3 is the Beneteau Oceanis 40 we bought, and we are very happy with her. The 42.3 is the new Beneteau Oceanis 41; we haven't seen the Moorings version, but the standard version is very nice. Given all that, we'd be very happy on a 37.2 with two or three people.
Cheers, RickG
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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04/06/2015 01:25 PM
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FYI - The 43.3 currently available with Moorings is not a Cyclades. It's the Oceanis 43.
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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04/06/2015 09:34 PM
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Matt, good to hear. We did not hear of any problems with the Oceanis 43.
Cheers, RickG
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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04/25/2015 10:53 PM
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As an update to this thread, after the price changes that went into effect on 4/15, I was able to upgrade to a 41.3 for $264 for the week. Seems like a no-brainer. Wheels up one month from today! Can't wait!
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Re: Moorings 37.2 vs Moorings 43.3
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04/26/2015 10:05 AM
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That's great! Have a great time!
Matt
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