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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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Assuming that information is correct and that all restaurants will have to vacate at the same time, at least now they know.
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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EdB said: that picture says it all!!! sad. hope she reopens soon. Wholeheartedly agree. Of all the restaurants, Andy and Cheryl's was meant to be a beach shack, and it will no longer be that.
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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20valve said: So I'm guessing the beach will still be open in front of those restaurants during the construction? If not I guess we will expect a influx of cruise ship folks heading to Club O's beach next week? This should make for interesting people watching. Can't wait! I don't see any cruises listed on the cruise schedule for next week. Are there really none coming or are they just not on there yet?
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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[/quote] Wholeheartedly agree. Of all the restaurants, Andy and Cheryl's was meant to be a beach shack, and it will no longer be that. [/quote]
The whole feeling of Orient (at least to us) was the individuality of each beachfront bar/restaurant. That ambiance is being taken away now all in the name of bureaucracy and the almighty dollar. Ah, progress, gotta love it. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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Unlike so many here, I have faith in the people who helped make Orient what it is today. The building they are in won't make much of a difference. The buildings will be cold and sterile for about a month and then the talents of the owners and operators will once again come to the fore and we will see their character expressed again.
Yes, it will be hard for the owners in the short term, yes, there will be some long term changes, but some of the responses here make it sound like the plan is to put in a strip mall with a CVS and a Burger King, then make the beach itself into the world's first open air Chuck E Cheese. It is just new buildings.
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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I don't see any cruises listed on the cruise schedule for next week. Are there really none coming or are they just not on there yet? [/quote] check out this link for cruise ships. http://201.220.14.28/sxm/MainMenu.aspx?ShipScheduleType=2
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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Yes, it's in Marigot, close to where Match used to be, which is now.. sorry?? Super U or something??
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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BeachKitten said: And the buses and minivans have always brought the cattle from the cruise ships. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cloud.gif" alt="" /> Cattle??
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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Durathror said: Unlike so many here, I have faith in the people who helped make Orient what it is today. The building they are in won't make much of a difference. The buildings will be cold and sterile for about a month and then the talents of the owners and operators will once again come to the fore and we will see their character expressed again.
Yes, it will be hard for the owners in the short term, yes, there will be some long term changes, but some of the responses here make it sound like the plan is to put in a strip mall with a CVS and a Burger King, then make the beach itself into the world's first open air Chuck E Cheese. It is just new buildings. We respectfully disagree. It's not just 'new buildings'. It's government-sanctioned sterile cement box buildings that take away the whole 'beach-shack' ambiance. If we want that, we can go to Aruba (no disrespect to Aruba or the folks that love it; but let's face it, it's not SXM). And, if it pans out, there's a big difference between taxis and vans bringing cruise ship passengers and huge tourist buses trucking them in. With the additional expense being spent, you can bet rents will go up and they'll be heavily promoting Orient Beach to the passengers even more so than now. Something tells me they're not just doing this because of hurricanes. We'll see where it goes from here. I guess time will tell whether our ''strip mall' fears are founded or not.
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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As someone else said, there are already huge tourist busses coming to Orient, to the Palm Beach area, and used to be Waikiki and/or Kakao. I really don't see this changing much as far as cruise ship traffic to Orient. Virtually all of the places that are being displaced do not really have sufficient seats to handle a huge crowd anyway, certainly not in the restaurants. I am with Durathror, I think the complaints of the end of the earth are a little over-reacting. I think the end result will be a better experience for visitors.
On the other hand, I do feel very genuinely sorry for the business owners who will be without income for several months. That will be extremely hard on them.
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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Carol_Hill said:On the other hand, I do feel very genuinely sorry for the business owners who will be without income for several months. That will be extremely hard on them. Agreed! Not many of those packing up this week looked too happy. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Sad.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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Carol_Hill said:
On the other hand, I do feel very genuinely sorry for the business owners who will be without income for several months. That will be extremely hard on them. Not only will it be harder on them.....you can bet that we all will be paying a lot more for lunches, chair rentals etc. Betting the days of 15-20 dollar chair rental for two with umbrellas will be up at least five bucks. Then of course.....the pricing at the restaurant will have to show the new increase of rent, PLUS the loss months of income. I hope we all will be able to afford going from now on.
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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january said: Well let me put my two cents worth of speculation in then. Over the years I have seen the businesses come and go in that area and each change brought new décor to the existing structure. The creativity of each new owner gave each transformation its own flair. It is my hope that that is what will happen all over again and what looks like a one size fits all design in the artists renditions will be replaced with a new burst of creativities by the new occupants. I think that history may well repeat itself and a new era will be born in that area. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Sick.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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january said: Well let me put my two cents worth of speculation in then. Over the years I have seen the businesses come and go in that area and each change brought new décor to the existing structure. The creativity of each new owner gave each transformation its own flair. It is my hope that that is what will happen all over again and what looks like a one size fits all design in the artists renditions will be replaced with a new burst of creativities by the new occupants. I think that history may well repeat itself and a new era will be born in that area. I like your positive spin and I agree.
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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SXMScubaman said:january said: Well let me put my two cents worth of speculation in then. Over the years I have seen the businesses come and go in that area and each change brought new décor to the existing structure. The creativity of each new owner gave each transformation its own flair. It is my hope that that is what will happen all over again and what looks like a one size fits all design in the artists renditions will be replaced with a new burst of creativities by the new occupants. I think that history may well repeat itself and a new era will be born in that area. I like your positive spin and I agree. Me too !! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Sick.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Sick.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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january said: Where do people get their information that rents, prices for food, drinks, chairs, and other things will be going up? Sounds like pure speculation based on nothing specific. Maybe that will happen, but no one knows anything for sure. January, You obviously were talking about my post. I may not be a rocket scientist, but have been in real estate for three decades now, and am smart enough to know thatt when a landlord builds a very expensive building, and adds all sort of parking, someone will obviously have to pay for all this. I will bet my house that the tenants wont be getting this new stuff without a bump in the rent. Higher costs by these tenants will obviously have to be made up somehow. I dont think it will be speculaative to know where this will lead...and it leads right to us! If you can think of other means I would love to hear them
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Re: Evidence of the "North of Pedro's" Construction?
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Wow, hold the presses!! For the SECOND time in recent memory, I agree with Scubaman!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Rofl.gif" alt="" /> Since the government is doing the rehab, who knows? They SHOULD keep the rents the same, as they are using tax money to do the rehab, one would 'assume'. It seems like none of the current tenants have been offered a specific lease yet though. I think the most that can be said is that everything is up in the air.
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