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Re: sargasso observations
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06/15/2015 01:16 PM
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hallucination said: Around the airport/de-sal plant is amazing! this stuff is almost 20 feet thick. smells like an outhouse on a hot summer day.
once you get out from behind the islands, there are rafts of this stuff the size of houses.
Anegada had a 6 foot wide rope of the stuff about a 1/2 foot thick. luckily it had already gone through the fermentation phase and did not stink too bad.
Other than that, we had a couple of stinky beaches, but not at all bad. I think we moved back field at sopers, cause towards the front was pretty funky. When I was down a few weeks ago it reminded me of the story about the couple that got divorced, before the wife moved out after losing the house to her cheating hubby, she went around and unscrewed all of the curtain rod ends and inserted a shrimp into each one. The ex hubby couldn't determine the smell and couldn't sell the house because of it ...made me think if you really wanted to give someone some payback that Sargassum would do the trick!! That is by far one of the raunchy-ous smells I have ever smelled!!
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Re: sargasso observations
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06/15/2015 07:11 PM
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Hopefully it will be gone by next month. I love to beachcomber, don't mind the smell of fermenting seaweed but an entire beach of rotting sargasso doesn't sound too exciting!!
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Re: sargasso observations
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09/30/2015 08:23 PM
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StormJib said: Actually the fishing is always best just outside the mats or underneath them if you can present your bait there. Once you head further south you will witness the local fisherman creating their own mats to fish underneath with palms or whatever they can find. The best fishing in the Gulf of Mexico is along the "rip" of Sargasso. No RIP there is far less chance of catching anything meaningful. I'm well aware of how to fish around seaweed, but thanks for your totally irrelevant info when it comes to trolling from a boat. Once I head further South where? Your responses are like a robot. Where did you plagiarize your post from? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />
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Re: sargasso observations
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09/30/2015 09:40 PM
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Think he got it from his favorite magazine. "Blather and [censored] Monthly". Likes the centerfolds <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: sargasso observations
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10/01/2015 10:48 AM
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There is more to our world than what you can read on a hand held GPS with extra batteries. I was rigging hand sewn baits before LORAN. Catching fish then finding my way back to the dock. The offshore fishing and trolling is always better parallel to a organized weed line. In some areas if the weeds do not form up into a "rip" there is little chance of any success. Between Martinique and St. Lucia and near other islands south and east of the BVI you can see fleets of small boats most days building their own mats with palms or whatever they can find to attract marine life. The very low dories can be card to spot from the charter cat on autopilot with the working crew laying low to not startle the gathering fish. The sargasso if it is here to stay will be good for the offshore fishing. The science from the reef is not as certain. The weed is also very healthy for sustainable beaches. Yes, I know the two legged sun lizards do not like the stuff on their Disney beaches and demand the nature to be raked off. If you ever have the chance to enter the water quietly with a mask and peek under the mat the diverse small marine life is stunning. The smell even stench when the weed comes ashore is the death of that diverse bio and ecosystem. Current brought the weed to wherever it is. Nutrients sustain and fuel its growth. Someone with a very good chemistry set can tell us whether the nutrients now in abundance in the waters near the BVI are from far away construction runoff or the human waste of a thousand party boats. Good water samples would reveal the potential sources fueling the massive plant blooms across the area. The sargasso plant is doing its part to clean up our water. With the sargasso we will have cleaner water, healthier beaches, and more robust fish and bird life. To those that enjoy catching gets some bigger hooks and learn how to wish the Rip/Weeds. For those who like small marine creatures get a mask and quietly study what actually thrives under those mats. For the intellectually curios take some water samples and study the high level of organic nutrients. Is that coming from our farms, toilets, or construction equipment? As long as there is excess organic nutrients in the water the plant life will blossom. Sargasso is the first healthy set of plants trying to bring nature in balance. With greater pollution we will witness must nastier algae and weeds. There are massive issues with the nastier variants along coastal China. Flame on....
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Re: sargasso observations
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10/01/2015 11:43 AM
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my trolling observations from a couple months ago... if you are using topwater (hoochie type, or rigged ballyhoo with a hochie on its nose) it will be fine. usually, you will see the weeds catch the lure (the rod will start bouncing a bit) and you can just grab the line and yank it with your hand while the rod is still in the rodholder, it will come off. I only had to reel in a few times to get it off... you would be surprised by how many times the lure will just skip over the top of even the heaviest mats... if you use any lure that goes under water (like a spoon or diving bait) you can forget it... you'll be cleaning weeds the whole time... we did get a few hits/fish near the weed mats as we trolled though... pompano I think... also caught several little tunny (bonito), a black fin tuna, barracuda, some silver fish I couldn't identify (small kingfish?), and a mahi. I wish we had brought more than 3 pre-rigged ballyhoo... we caught fish on all 3, with 2 of them being within 5 min of putting the bait in the water! got a lot (like 4?) of our fish near the kingfish banks, on our way back from anegada.. one last fishing tip... if you catch a tunny, you can cut strips (like 2 inch by 6-8 inch, with skin on) and pin those to your "hoochie"... seemed to increase our catch... good luck
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Re: sargasso observations
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10/01/2015 11:53 AM
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mayjong1 said: my trolling observations from a couple months ago... if you are using topwater (hoochie type, or rigged ballyhoo with a hochie on its nose) it will be fine. usually, you will see the weeds catch the lure (the rod will start bouncing a bit) and you can just grab the line and yank it with your hand while the rod is still in the rodholder, it will come off. I only had to reel in a few times to get it off... you would be surprised by how many times the lure will just skip over the top of even the heaviest mats... if you use any lure that goes under water (like a spoon or diving bait) you can forget it... you'll be cleaning weeds the whole time... we did get a few hits/fish near the weed mats as we trolled though... pompano I think... also caught several little tunny (bonito), a black fin tuna, barracuda, some silver fish I couldn't identify (small kingfish?), and a mahi. I wish we had brought more than 3 pre-rigged ballyhoo... we caught fish on all 3, with 2 of them being within 5 min of putting the bait in the water! got a lot (like 4?) of our fish near the kingfish banks, on our way back from anegada.. one last fishing tip... if you catch a tunny, you can cut strips (like 2 inch by 6-8 inch, with skin on) and pin those to your "hoochie"... seemed to increase our catch... good luck Very well shared! There are some very talented boats fishing out of St. Thomas at least part of the year. Does anyone know how the pro's on St. Thomas have changed their approach and baits?
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