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KLM Cancelled #91885
03/27/2016 02:23 PM
03/27/2016 02:23 PM
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Teresasxm Offline OP
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Our first day on the island found us at our favorite spot in the world...Maho Beach watching planes land and takeoff, KLM came in few minutes late and landed in high winds. There seemed to be a huge puff of smoke when he touched down...a little larger than most when the "rubber meets the asphalt" IMHO Everything looked pretty normal but when he was late taking off for two hours I checked online and it says KLMs takeoff has been canceled. Does anyone on TTOL have any insider Intel at the airport? Does the big 747 need fixing?

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Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: Teresasxm] #91886
03/27/2016 03:08 PM
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It looks like KLM took off at 1249p after a 49 minute delay but the flight route says "in flight" arriving in Curacao with a 2 hour delay

Last edited by boucharda; 03/27/2016 03:11 PM.
Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: boucharda] #91887
03/27/2016 03:12 PM
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Sounds like a bent wheel upon landing.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: boucharda] #91888
03/27/2016 03:20 PM
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Can see from my front door that KLM is still parked at the gate, even though the website says enroute.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: Bianca] #91889
03/27/2016 03:26 PM
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Just saw on Maho Beach Cam KLM is still on the ground.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: Bianca] #91890
03/27/2016 03:34 PM
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Maybe it's "en route" but just not moving yet... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />

Edited to add:

Even better...KLM site says "enroute" but delayed 30 hours

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St Maarten (SXM)

En route Sun 27 Mar
12:49 12:00
Curacao (CUR)

Arrival
Mon 28 Mar Sun 27 Mar
19:35 13:35

30 hours and 0 minute(s) delayed

Last edited by boucharda; 03/27/2016 03:38 PM.
Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: boucharda] #91891
03/27/2016 09:12 PM
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RonDon:
A bent wheel would be a big, big deal. They would most likely have to change the whole landing gear. That's a pretty big job. The report of the smoke makes me think that he blew a tire. Not a big job if you have a replacement tire on hand and the equipment to change it.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: january] #91892
03/27/2016 10:58 PM
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It has been at the gate all day today...and as of 15 minutes ago, when we drove by the airport it was still parked!!!

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: january] #91893
03/27/2016 11:26 PM
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Flying in a wheel/tire is pretty routine. Blowing tires happens. Bending wheels happens, but much more rarely. Bending a landing gear is very remote and requires a pretty hard landing. Removing and replacing a whole landing gear assembly is a big deal and that jet will be there awhile while one is crated in and installed (outdoors).

If it was a hard landing, I'd bet on blown tire(s).

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: PelicanPirate] #91894
03/28/2016 08:14 AM
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Still sitting on Tarmac this morning.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: Fivesumwr] #91895
03/28/2016 11:33 AM
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Wouldn't doubt mechanics and spare parts are arriving on AF498 today.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: wilsonck] #91896
03/28/2016 12:33 PM
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I'll bet those KLM execs are kicking themselves now for not purchasing the extneded Boeing Service and Roadside Assistance contract. Also helps if you mistakenly lock your keys in the cockpit!

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: smalbany] #91897
03/28/2016 01:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure Boeing Roadside is only offered in the continental 48.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: dkupersmith] #91898
03/28/2016 07:15 PM
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Still sitting there.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: SXMScubaman] #91899
03/28/2016 08:17 PM
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UP UP AND AWAY!

At 8:06 pm the KLM 747 took off from St Maarten. It looked good (smooth takeoff) and sounded good. No idea what the problem was but it obviously got fixed.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: Teresasxm] #91900
03/28/2016 08:42 PM
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A pilot friend on the island heard the KLM crew announce to the tower they had a brake system malfunction.

Re: KLM Cancelled [Re: Teresasxm] #91901
03/29/2016 11:02 AM
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According to this story, it was an engine problem, but at least they were able to leave finally.


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