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Re: Suggestions on proposed bareboat float plan
[Re: trespalmas]
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04/02/2017 11:57 AM
04/02/2017 11:57 AM
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trespalmas said: Thanks for the insight.... great advice!
I'll read up on Anguilla cruising permits and be sure to check in at Anse Marcel vs. Marigot.
Is Anse Marcel a little far for a dinghy ride from Grand Case? I think your plan sounds good overall. Just a couple of observations. I was going to mention the cruising permits also. I think "technically", you have to clear in at Road Bay *before* you go to the outer islands. I don't know how stringently they enforce that kind of thing but they seem to be a bit more formal on things than the rest of the area. Plus, the cruising fees are rather high (I think) so be prepared - like in the hundreds of dollars. Double-check. Our itinerary is similar to yours with the difference that we start from Oyster Pond. We pre-clear out of St. Martin for the next day and then head up and around to Grande Case for the first night. Then we leave for Anguilla the next day. This means we don't have to go in to Anse Marcel to clear out. Don't know if you can pre-clear out from where you start or not. I think it would be a long and potentially rough dinghy ride from Grande Case to Marcel. We stay one night in Road Bay and then go around the North end and down to Orient Bay. You can anchor near Green Cay at the South end of the Bay or by Pinel. The best place to go ashore on Orient is at the South end at the Club Orient watersports hut. It's really the only place that is protected from the swells. Our first time, we just landed the dinghy in the surf by Pedros. Getting on shore wasn't bad but getting back out was, umm, a challenge. I wrote it all up in a blog post Here if you want to read the gory details. Note of course, that coming ashore at the South end of Orient means that you must walk through the Club Orient beach. Only you know whether that is "no big deal" or a deal breaker for your crew. The people there won't mind but you might feel odd if that is outside your comfort zone. As noted elsewhere, don't expect to get dinner ashore at Orient. As far as I know, all the beach places close up by around 4:00 or 4:30. Same for the bars on Pinel. You *can* get dinner just off the beach in Orient Village (somewhat lengthy walk north from Club Orient but doable) but it will likely be dark when you are done and that makes getting back to the boat a bit dicey. If you do it, don't forget your flashlights and to leave your masthead light on. There is no food (or anything for that matter) at Columbier on St. Barts - making it our favorite place... We will be there this June so I'll have updated info after that if needed. Happy to answer any other questions as well. You'll have a blast.
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Re: Suggestions on proposed bareboat float plan
[Re: trespalmas]
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04/03/2017 07:20 AM
04/03/2017 07:20 AM
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trespalmas said:...Is Anse Marcel a little far for a dinghy ride from Grand Case? Yes, it is a bit rough out there for a dinghy. I usually anchor in 10-12 feet inside Anse Marcel and dinghy in to the Capitainerie. I've found it to be rolly in Anse Marcel so only stay long enough to clear in/out and then go to Grand Case. Another option is to anchor in Grand Case and take a bus to Marigot ($2) then clear in at Island Waterworld on the French side for a couple of Euro.
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Re: Suggestions on proposed bareboat float plan
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04/03/2017 11:52 AM
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Great tips and insight. We always have "intentions" but that doesn't mean we have to stick to them. This is the entire crews first time sailing around St. Martin so we'll take it day to day once we are onboard. Always helps to have an outline though!
I like the idea of stopping in Marcel just to clear in and then moving on to Grand Case.
Is the captain always required to clear in the boat and crew.... or can that duty be performed by the mate?
Since DYC is located on the French side, it probably doesn't make sense to stay in Simpson Bay the last night (Saturday). I imagine we would have to clear in/out of the dutch side and clear in on the French side. Seems like staying in Marigot would make a lot more sense?
tmsxmsails... you are right- my online search states cruising permits for Anguilla are $100/day! Snorkeling better be good! Thanks for sharing your blog- enjoyed browsing. This group won't be shy about strolling Club Orient Beach... I'm sure we'll be anchoring by Green Cay! Look forward to your June trip report.
Last edited by trespalmas; 04/03/2017 11:58 AM.
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