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Re: Why they do that
[Re: TIMRIM]
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05/20/2017 07:51 PM
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Had too many friends break free with mooring ball still attached after the ground tackle gave way not to give it some throttle back, but not full throttle. It also avoids tangles on the ball when you back away.
Mike
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Re: Why they do that
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05/20/2017 09:08 PM
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There is a big difference between backing down on an anchor and backing down on a mooring.
The bow person has (or should have) just seen the entire tackle string on an anchor and noticed any weakness making it unsuitable for use. Backing down on it should not compromise it.
On the other hand, you have no clue about the condition of the ground tackle on a mooring ball. Repeated backing down on mooring balls will deteriorate the ground tackle. When you back down, you may have just broken all but the very last strand of line.
If possible, dive the mooring, just like an anchor.
Walker Mangum Cow Wreck Beach, Anegada
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Re: Why they do that
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05/21/2017 01:19 PM
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Back down an anchor...sure. Then snorkel it too. I've never backed down on a Moore Secure mooring. Would think that would shorten the life span. Secure, wait, watch, stay at the fore peak, double check for 15 minutes. Go fix a drink.
JPH I spent my money on booze, broads, and boats...the rest I wasted.
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Re: Why they do that
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Re: Why they do that
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05/24/2017 05:51 PM
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casailor53 said: If you have the correct equipment and know how to use it, why would you ever feel the need to snorkel your anchor? Two reasons: 1) The liability of a $1,000,000 boat that I don't own. 2) I sleep better.
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Re: Why they do that
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05/25/2017 11:16 AM
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Twanger said:casailor53 said: If you have the correct equipment and know how to use it, why would you ever feel the need to snorkel your anchor? Two reasons: 1) The liability of a $1,000,000 boat that I don't own. 2) I sleep better. So I guess you never anchor in deep water, cold water, low visibility water or at night? All good skills to have.
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Re: Why they do that
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05/25/2017 11:18 AM
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ggffrr11 said: Happiness is diving on your anchor and finding it actually plow down in a sand patch (and not eel grass)!
-- Since then, we dive (scuba if we have it) every anchorage. A plow set deep in the sand with about 30' of chain stretched out on the ground towards the boat (scope of 4 to 5:1) makes for the quote: "that boat ain't going no where!" You might want to re-think that!
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Re: Why they do that
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05/26/2017 10:08 AM
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casailor53 said:Twanger said:casailor53 said: If you have the correct equipment and know how to use it, why would you ever feel the need to snorkel your anchor? Two reasons: 1) The liability of a $1,000,000 boat that I don't own. 2) I sleep better. So I guess you never anchor in deep water, cold water, low visibility water or at night? All good skills to have. Ghads. I really don't want to get into a p_ssing contest over this. When practical I dive the anchor. This means most of the time. This is the BVI forum and I was talking about the BVI. I was also talking about expensive charter boats that I don't own. I almost never anchor in water deeper than 25 feet in the BVI. I can snorkel down to 35 feet. We are not allowed to sail a charter boat at night, so no, I don't anchor at night in the BVI.
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