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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: ruralcarrier]
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07/19/2017 04:27 PM
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Wow, OK, surprised, but I don't really understand how they will accomplish entry from the other end. The runways and taxiways now are right up against the fence in the area of Beachside Villas and the other places on that end, so I don't see where they could put the road at that end. And in the middle is the beach, and that is a turtle nesting area.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: Kennys]
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07/19/2017 05:51 PM
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Good. Personally speaking, I think the idea of routing through your area is totally ridiculous, Lesley. Not to mention, I can't imagine how that would work with cars tripping through the residential area along the runway, since there's really no place else for the road to go.
What happened recently is a shame but I'm a firm believer in personal responsibility. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Respectfully,
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: ruralcarrier]
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07/19/2017 05:59 PM
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Not posting at you, but people need to remember that they heard from here first a couple of days ago....http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1738880&an=0&page=0#Post1738880
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: SXMSAMMY]
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07/19/2017 06:06 PM
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Of course what tourists want really isn't of concern to the SXM government, but I think that Beerman's post was not what the vast majority of folks here are thinking.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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07/19/2017 08:42 PM
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kim said: Most idiotic thing I have ever heard of. What they really need to to lengthen the runway the other way so they don't take off so close to the fence if that is even possible. Or ONLY take off toward the sea and not the mountain of that is possible. I have no idea how that even works. Sorry Kim, the prevailing winds are trade winds coming from the East North East 90%+ of the time. This is almost straight down the runway at PJIA, and the winds are usually 10 kts or better. Landing to the east and taking off to the east shortens the stopping distance upon landing and shortens the takeoff run similarly. For aircraft there are two speeds in play: the ground speed which measures how fast you are moving across the earth, and the air speed, which measures how fast the air is moving across your wings. You do not want to take off or land with a tail wind if the wind is blowing more than 1 or 2 kts...you will use a lot more runway and have a much higher impact on the landing gear if you land downwind. (And yes, I hold an FAA Commercial Pilot Certificate...but I have been retired for years now.) So that's why the safest bet at PJIA is usually landing and taking off to the east.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: Kennys]
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07/19/2017 10:10 PM
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Kennys said: This change will not happen. The road will remain the same spot. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" />This is just to quiet the SJW's.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: pat]
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07/19/2017 10:12 PM
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pat said: Good. Personally speaking, I think the idea of routing through your area is totally ridiculous, Lesley. Not to mention, I can't imagine how that would work with cars tripping through the residential area along the runway, since there's really no place else for the road to go.
What happened recently is a shame but I'm a firm believer in personal responsibility. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: deputydog1157]
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07/20/2017 09:35 AM
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Someone posted a link here a day or two ago, as to the reason why the concrete medians were placed there. Basically, the reason why they are there is to keep people from parking in the middle of the road.
I just don't see how relocating the road altogether is not going to create a far bigger problem, with traffic problems in Simpson Bay and there just isn't room to put a road there beside the runway, which is the only place they can put it. And then, guess what? People will stop on the road and will stand by the side of the road so they can watch planes take off and land! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: mprevo]
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07/20/2017 04:56 PM
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We own on Beacon Hill and if they rerouted the road as the paper suggests; it would create a nightmare for both residents and businesses in Beacon Hill area. It also would be very expensive and a much simpler and effective way to resolve the problem would be to station a patrolman there between 8 AM and 5 PM. The patrolman would control the fence hangers as well as make the TAXI DRIVERS use the proper areas to pick up and drop off visitors. The TAXIS are relentless in slowing the roadway as they hock people to get customers .
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
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07/20/2017 05:24 PM
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badbenni said: We own on Beacon Hill and if they rerouted the road as the paper suggests; it would create a nightmare for both residents and businesses in Beacon Hill area. It also would be very expensive and a much simpler and effective way to resolve the problem would be to station a patrolman there between 8 AM and 5 PM. The patrolman would control the fence hangers as well as make the TAXI DRIVERS use the proper areas to pick up and drop off visitors. The TAXIS are relentless in slowing the roadway as they hock people to get customers . <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: badbenni]
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07/20/2017 07:06 PM
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I agree this is a silly plan, and it will hurt the residents in Beacon Hill. And as far as the fence hangers, I think one could hire private security to do the job, and not use police officers for that purpose. You would only need to have private security there from about 11 to 3, something like that, as that's when the vast majority of the big planes, and the crowds, are there.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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07/20/2017 08:08 PM
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Carol_Hill said: I agree this is a silly plan, and it will hurt the residents in Beacon Hill. And as far as the fence hangers, I think one could hire private security to do the job, and not use police officers for that purpose. You would only need to have private security there from about 11 to 3, something like that, as that's when the vast majority of the big planes, and the crowds, are there. Great idea Carol. I would nominate you for some position in the SXM government, someone that has knowledge and common sense. Also give out fines, that will stop them. If they have a problem with drunks, then call the police. There is no need to spend millions to re-route the road. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: badbenni]
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07/20/2017 09:04 PM
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OK, I did not know that. And I agree that holding onto the fence should be made an offense, which I don't think it currently is, and that the signs should designate that.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: LBI2SXM]
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07/20/2017 09:07 PM
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Oh sorry, I have NO desire to be in SXM government, and I assume that I could not be, since I do not live on SXM.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: shieneehead]
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07/20/2017 09:46 PM
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I agree an electric fence is the answer. That was my suggestion when I first heard about this. It works and will cost a lot less than moving the road or trying to do anything else. Barb wire would work too.
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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07/20/2017 10:31 PM
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SXMScubaman said: I think it was said in jest. Yes it was. Thanks Scubaman
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Re: Re-route Traffic near Airport?
[Re: DavidinChelseaMA]
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07/21/2017 08:12 AM
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I think the plan is to move the airport fence back closer to the ocean and take the road out altogether. Then people who stand in the jet blast would be further away and they can only be blown into the ocean. But you're right, people will still stand in the jet blast, and the end result will seriously inconvenience everyone in Beacon Hill.
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