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If you were a ship designer, after Triumph...
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02/15/2013 10:33 AM
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...what would you do differently?? Maybe the answer is 'nothing', as this was such an unusual situation. I do not aspire to have ANY engineering knowledge, but lack of knowledge has not stopped many people from expounding on this situation. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> Despite the inconvenience of no a/c and little hot food, it is obvious what the 'number one' and 'number two' problems were for the passengers. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> It is my understanding that cruise ships are legally required to treat their sewage before it is disposed of in the water, so a 'low tech' solution does not seem possible. Possibly have the sewage system part of the emergency systems and put the public bathrooms (only) on a separate 'circuit' to ensure that at least all the public bathrooms are operational?
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Re: If you were a ship designer, after Triumph...
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It sounds like in this case they could have started other engines but chose not to. Coast guard said that was a good choice. Why not fly a team to the ship to investigate the issue and determine if the other engine can be used?
I think the single best solution is to have generators on board to run critical systems. Water, food prep and sewage.
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Re: If you were a ship designer, after Triumph...
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I guess the latest is that the engines were not actually damaged, although I don't know if they could have flown someone there to examine them or not. I think the problem is that if they did try to re-start the engines and there was a problem, the automatic fire supression system had already fired, so they couldn't use it again and if there was another fire, it would have been out of control?
I guess for newer ships, built after 2010, redundency systems are required, so I supposed the answer is, don't sail on a ship built before 2010!
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Re: If you were a ship designer, after Triumph...
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If the fire supression only gets one use, then perhaps they should have a way to recharge or two systems?
They did fly a generator in, so I don't see why they couldn't fly some engineers in.
Or perhaps simply better inspections and advanced alerts so they could have detected the leak and/or shut down things before a fire started.
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Re: If you were a ship designer, after Triumph...
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There was a report about that incident, I'm sure, but I haven't seen it.
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Re: If you were a ship designer, after Triumph...
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02/28/2013 11:05 AM
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Big difference between your vacuum and drinking water. I wouldn't want to drink water that was surrounded by sewage, would you?
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