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mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
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10/01/2020 12:49 AM
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
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10/01/2020 06:54 AM
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They really are trying to kill sxm tourism. Can’t imagine all the poor car rental company’s, Hotels and other suffering businesses will tolerate that stupidity. It’s becoming expensive Shopping market to get to sxm if your s family. This will take food right off the table if those in desperate need of tourists. Makes me wonder who’s pocket all this money is going into?? Really smells rotten. Hopefully enough will speak up and get this shut down. Just a stupid and ridiculous move.
Last edited by foreversxm; 10/01/2020 06:58 AM.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: kim]
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10/01/2020 07:33 AM
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They are looking for a way to scam more dollars out of every visitor to the island. No where in that article does it mention what are the numbers of people who are visitors to the island that arrive infected or become infected while staying on the island. It would seem to me that those numbers, if very high would be driving this measure, but also, if those numbers were very high they would be shutting the island back down to visitors. I can guarantee you that the island is in partnership with the insurance companies and getting a cut from each and every policy written. This is just another form of taxation. I'm committed to traveling in November to SXM unless this stupidity from the island government continues. If it does continue, this might be my last visit. I hear there is an island going up for sale in the Bahamas, Epstein Estate Auction, maybe a few of us can form an LLC and purchase this island.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: jazzgal]
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10/01/2020 08:39 AM
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We’d planned to buy an international supplemental policy for $40 that covered everyone, so I’m not sure if that might help with this new rule. I think the policy we were considering does not cover expenses for quarantine, though. If this required plan actually helps with that, it might be useful in some way. It’s also important to ensure any medical evacuation coverage includes COVID. My plan has language excluding biosafety level 3 pathogens. I don’t know if COVID falls into that category. Something to look into.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: jazzgal]
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10/01/2020 08:49 AM
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bullsh*t.. Just close down and don't allow any US visitors.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: jazzgal]
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10/01/2020 08:51 AM
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I can’t help but wonder how many more obstacles can they possibly place in the path of would-be returning visitors and the islanders themselves for a realistic financial recovery of the island and it’s people?
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pat
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: jazzgal]
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10/01/2020 09:23 AM
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Well, you could be flying to NY where you will have to self quarantine for 14 days, test or no test. Or CT where you have to have a test in 72 hours. Imagine that?
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: Dan58]
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10/01/2020 09:40 AM
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Well said, Dan. All of this crap will affect SXM as a destination for much longer than Covid will.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: jazzgal]
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10/01/2020 09:50 AM
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We booked our tickets last night and woke up to this new policy (or proposed policy). There's part of me that wants to cancel the tickets since that's still an option. As was mentioned above, there's no way of knowing what policies or restrictions will be in place by the time we're supposed to travel in December. We booked a trip to St. Martin because we've enjoyed our time there in the past and know the island. There's not a lot of planning involved since we know where to stay, eat, rent, etc. We wanted an easy trip that took minimal preparation since it legitimately might not happen for several COVID-related reasons. However, at this point, I'm probably going to have a back up plan for another island just in case.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: dvesc]
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10/01/2020 09:57 AM
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The Tourism Minister has been talking about this crap for months and I guess the only reason why it hasn't already gone into effect is because she couldn't get the insurance companies to write it. Just imagine what happens when/if there is actually a claim on this stuff, and they refuse to pay, as SXM insurance companies have a real want to do????
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: jazzgal]
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10/01/2020 10:30 AM
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That was the way I read it, too.
And on another note, in speaking with an Allianz representative just the other day, I was under the impression (perhaps mistakenly so?) they were including Covid coverage in their basic policy packages if contracted on the island. I guess I need to contact them again and make certain this is the case.
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pat
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: Billtjw]
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10/01/2020 10:45 AM
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If I am reading this correctly , you have to purchase SXMinsurance even though you have private Covid Travel Insurance. Am I correct. That's also the way I read it. I guess requiring visitors to have insurance on their own was required before the powers that be discovered that they could make some cash from insurance kickbacks (opinion)...disregarding what it might do to the RESIDENTS who depend on tourism....
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: dvesc]
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10/01/2020 11:54 AM
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Right. Medical evac is not covered at all, basically, on the Aruba policy. Seems like a HUGE waste of money, or a boondoggle for Aruba insurance companies.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
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10/01/2020 11:55 AM
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bullsh*t.. Just close down and don't allow any US visitors. My feelings exactly.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: ruralcarrier]
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10/01/2020 12:14 PM
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bullsh*t.. Just close down and don't allow any US visitors. My feelings exactly. I don't see why the requirement just for covid. Most all personal health overage policies will cover medical issues including covid. Maybe a separate evacuation policy would be a good call but not at the prices proposed. Total BS . A money grab that will hurt St Maarten many ways.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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10/01/2020 01:26 PM
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bullsh*t.. Just close down and don't allow any US visitors. Please don't encourage that, we have plans to arrive 10/31 and have not seen a requirement yet that will stop that. As another poster pointed out several states in the US have worse requirements with the mandatory quarantine for 14 days after arrival.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: CaribEagle]
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10/01/2020 06:03 PM
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bullsh*t.. Just close down and don't allow any US visitors. Please don't encourage that, we have plans to arrive 10/31 and have not seen a requirement yet that will stop that. As another poster pointed out several states in the US have worse requirements with the mandatory quarantine for 14 days after arrival. It is a proven fact, the SXM government will do what they want regardless of what us tourists think or want.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: jazzgal]
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10/01/2020 07:22 PM
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Health insurance over and above what I already have?
I'm done.
Last straw.
I've been visiting SXM for decades longer than a lot of the folks here, maybe 40 years. For awhile, my business partner and I even owned a small place in Orleans. I have a special affinity for the French side, and always spent most of my time there. Then I started spending time on St Barth, which was a different world for me, different even than French side. In the past 10-15 years I've been spending more time on St Barth, and less time on either Sint Maarten or St Martin. My usual practice has been to spend 5-6 days on St Maarten/St Martin, and then 10-12 days on St Barth.
I'm done with SXM's changing requirements (c'mon, I already have better insurance), and I'm cutting SXM out of my life. I'll be going to St Barth in November. I'll be going there via SJU or STT, but I won't be going there via SXM. The money which I would have normally spent on a rental car, lodging, and meals on SXM will be spent on St Barth.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
[Re: SURICK]
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10/01/2020 07:26 PM
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No disagreement with the exception that SOME in the SXM government have proven to look out for their own best interests versus truly protection of the local population.
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Re: mandatory CV-19 insurance for tourists to be introduced
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10/01/2020 07:36 PM
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