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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Winterstale] #250790
03/22/2021 09:19 AM
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That original story is WAY old, August of last year. It's unclear what the date of the 'update' is. Again, I believe the rules for ships sailing from US ports are going to be different than the rules for ships sailing from outside the US. Unless things change before then, the ship sailing from St Maarten will NOT have the bubble concept.


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Winterstale] #250793
03/22/2021 09:26 AM
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Thanks. It looks like even if the passengers had a designated space and the ship staffed it themselves, at a minimum the taxi drivers would be exposed.

Can't really imagine a way to do this safely so it will be interesting to see how it evolves.

I do hope it forces the conversation about eliminating the quarantine requirement for vaccinated guests.


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250807
03/22/2021 12:06 PM
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Can we elect Jason to head the Tourist Board?

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250809
03/22/2021 12:27 PM
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I am hopeful we will see some policy changes for the BVI by May. The effects of the vaccination seem to be exceeding any expectations. The best example to date is Israel. With just over 50% of the population vaccinated they are seeing herd immunity. They are now down to 500 new cases a day and dropping from a peak of 10,000. Considering that Covid rates are raging in the Middle East and Europe this is a remarkable result especially when you factor in the Palestinian situation where the vaccine rate is nil and they intermix within Israel. The only European country with a semblance of control over covid is the UK with a 30% Vaccination rate. They are running about 5000 new cases a day compared to France at over 30,000. France has a very low vaccinated rate.
The BVI could easily adjust the current policy to eliminate the current day 4 test and release vaccinated tourists from quarantine after receipt of the day one test at zero risk to the local population. Tourism would boom!
G

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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250810
03/22/2021 12:33 PM
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That is EXACTLY what we are hoping will happen in time for our June trip, George!


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250815
03/22/2021 01:37 PM
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I'm hoping for it in the next month!!

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250817
03/22/2021 01:45 PM
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The hoops all the restaurants and bars had to go through before 1st December will be enforced and will keep everyone safe, now they should also let overnight guests in this way so the economy can start before the season ends as if it stays as is, they might be more plcaes lost.

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: sleepychef] #250819
03/22/2021 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepychef
The hoops all the restaurants and bars had to go through before 1st December will be enforced and will keep everyone safe, now they should also let overnight guests in this way so the economy can start before the season ends as if it stays as is, they might be more plcaes lost.

Pusser's in CGB closed last week. It's happening everywhere.


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250820
03/22/2021 02:00 PM
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Jason `- is that closed for good or temporarily until things pick up?

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: bagsarepacked] #250821
03/22/2021 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bagsarepacked
Jason `- is that closed for good or temporarily until things pick up?

permanently


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250822
03/22/2021 02:10 PM
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As they were leasing the restaurant from Val and Kareem I guess it reverts back to them now..interesting to see what happens. Fewer and fewer options on CGB..I miss Stanley's!

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Manpot] #250823
03/22/2021 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Manpot
As they were leasing the restaurant from Val and Kareem I guess it reverts back to them now..interesting to see what happens. Fewer and fewer options on CGB..I miss Stanley's!

They just took back the operations of the Chill Zone on the Pier Park so I'm not sure they are really prepared to restart in CGB too.


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: JasonHelmbrecht] #250825
03/22/2021 02:21 PM
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Love to see Tony /Stanley take it over..

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Manpot] #250865
03/23/2021 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Manpot
Can we elect Jason to head the Tourist Board?


I second that! Jason, you are wealth of knowledge and up to the minute information. Thank you!


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Manpot] #250866
03/23/2021 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Manpot
Can we elect Jason to head the Tourist Board?

Thought you were my friend...


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250869
03/23/2021 10:53 AM
03/23/2021 10:53 AM
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Haven’t read all the posts here, just caught the early disdain for cruisers and I agree with you Fran. Some land vacationers who have never cruised - or have tried cruising with no research and hated it - look at cruising as an inferior travel experience based on their limited knowledge, and can be a bit arrogant as a result. We too cruised 20 years ago and it was a great exposure to the different destinations, and we found our favorite places to spend more time and where we wanted to retire in the Carib. The right ship and itinerary make a world of difference of course...I was hoping cruises would not be restarted for awhile yet but it is a huge industry. We’ve been enjoying some of the other huge port destinations like Cozumel during this cruise respite...


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250874
03/23/2021 12:36 PM
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We love cruising as well - for all of the reasons above. We typically do our own thing in each port and have discovered new places to us - such as Belize and Roatan - that we have loved!

My only hope here....is that the protocols are relaxed for charterers and villa customers who are fully vaccinated. It just seems ridiculous not to....


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #250948
03/24/2021 10:34 AM
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Agree...And that may happen as further testing confirms that these vaccines actually prevent infection, which would reduce concerns of those vaccinated being asymptomatic and spreading the virus.... The newer data seems to be pointing that way joy

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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Manpot] #251013
03/25/2021 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Manpot
As they were leasing the restaurant from Val and Kareem I guess it reverts back to them now..interesting to see what happens. Fewer and fewer options on CGB..I miss Stanley's!

Good news from CGB this morning. Myett's will reopen and will be operated by the Rhymer's again. Val and Kareem back in control!!


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #251068
03/25/2021 01:10 PM
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Great..just bring back Kapeye and all will be well!!!

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: JasonHelmbrecht] #251074
03/25/2021 02:37 PM
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Fantastic news, I always need a bowl of that Conch chowder!
G

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #251089
03/25/2021 03:39 PM
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"Pusser's" was a horrible fit for that location..maitre d' wearing a tie!! The food and drinks prices were not right either ( being kind)..went there once and never returned. Good for Val and Kareem and with Quito's and Stanley/Tony's gone they should thrive..will they keep Indigo House as a bar too?

Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Manpot] #251094
03/25/2021 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Manpot
"Pusser's" was a horrible fit for that location..maitre d' wearing a tie!! The food and drinks prices were not right either ( being kind)..went there once and never returned. Good for Val and Kareem and with Quito's and Stanley/Tony's gone they should thrive..will they keep Indigo House as a bar too?

Quito's is still there. Thursday-Sunday for now.


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #251098
03/25/2021 05:03 PM
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I’d hoped with the admittance of cruise ship passengers who have been vaccinated with no quarantine that they would do the same for other travelers who had been vaccinated.

I know last month the health minister said when they got 70 % of the population vaccinated they could relax their protocols. Today I see a news item that they have only half 7,000people take the first dose of the vaccine . That is very few more than they had more than a week ago.

It is hard to tell from the piece if the vaccine was now open to anyone who wanted a dose or not. If so and from the comments and from what a friend told me about a number of C&I people not planning on being vaccinated, they are going to be way under that 70%.

https://bvinews.com/end-of-vaccine-shelf-life-nearing-but-number-of-vaccinations-low/

If this is accurate I suspect the BVI is going to see a spike in cases as they open ports and cruise ship passengers and not be opening fully as I hoped and be removing the quarantine for all travelers this summer.

Last edited by Will_L; 03/25/2021 06:47 PM.
Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #251099
03/25/2021 05:18 PM
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Personally, I don't think we'll ever come close to 70% vaccination but at the current pace of 418/week here is how the math works out. We have 30,030 residents and roughly 24,000 are 18+. To get to 70% (16,800) would take another 24 weeks at this pace. Add 10 weeks to get to the second shot, 2 additional weeks for the 2nd shot to be fully effective, and you'd have 36 more weeks to go. Just in time for Christmas.

And most recently, the Minister of Health actually said 70-80%. That is the point in which they said they would consider evaluating the current protocols. Draw your own conclusions from that.


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Re: Don't shoot the messenger.. [Re: Carol_Hill] #251100
03/25/2021 05:19 PM
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Looks like they are vaccinating 150 a day give or take. The UK should redirect the next shipment where it can be properly used.

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