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Dutch business close 11pm to 6am #256224
05/22/2021 07:15 AM
05/22/2021 07:15 AM
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Dutch side businesses to close 11pm-6am

All Dutch side businesses with permission to open at night will have condensed hours as of Sunday.

Based on the ministerial decree:

It is prohibited to have premises open to the public open between 11:00pm and 6:00am, which must in any case include:

a. Bars;
b. night clubs;
C. discotheques;
d. restaurants;
e. hotel bars; and,
f. spaces that are rented out for meetings, events and parties.

The prohibition referred to in the first paragraph does not apply to:

a. Hotels and lodgings, insofar as their own guests and staff are concerned, and;
b. land and buildings of the airport and of the seaports; or
c. Minister's decision

The Minister of Tourism, Economic Affairs, Transport and Telecommunications may, by decision, deviate from the provisions of Article II. effective from 23 May 2021.

At present, the number of active cases has increased significantly in a short period of time from 15 active cases on April 28, 2021 to 49 cases on May 18, 2021, and then on May 20, 2021.

Targeted intervention in the event of a rapid rise in the number of active cases is of interest.

Also in view of the prevention of a possible third wave, it is necessary to take appropriate measures. rapid rise to 74 active cases In addition, a negative change in the international ranking in order to travel to Sint Maarten must be prevented.

To control the number of infections and to prevent a further increase, it is considered desirable in the interest of the activity and economy of Sint Maarten to bring forward the closing times to 11pm.

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Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256225
05/22/2021 07:37 AM
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What about casinos? Hmm

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: kim] #256226
05/22/2021 07:39 AM
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Didn't mention casinos.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256241
05/22/2021 10:44 AM
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Well they should have. Went to the Dunes last evening and met up with one of the servers we knew for years at Atlantis/Starz. She told me she was not vaccinated and was afraid of getting the shot. I told her about all the reasons we were fully vaccinated and that she should be as well. Don't know if I convinced her, but will not be going back to that casino anytime soon. As far as I am concerned, people who work in an environment that interfaces with customers on a close up situation should be required by their employers to be vaccinated.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: MrWhiskerssammy] #256286
05/23/2021 09:44 AM
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"Went to the Dunes last evening and met up with one of the servers we knew for years at Atlantis/Starz. She told me she was not vaccinated and was afraid of getting the shot. I told her about all the reasons we were fully vaccinated and that she should be as well. Don't know if I convinced her, but will not be going back to that casino anytime soon".

Isn't one of the reasons you got vaccinated is because they told you you would be safe? So why would you care if someone else made up their mind to not get a shot while live human clinical trials are going still taking place, even after you, a guy she knows so well from bringing a couple drinks to over the course of a few years told her?


"As far as I am concerned, people who work in an environment that interfaces with customers on a close up situation should be required by their employers to be vaccinated."

Why? If they refuse, should they be fired? Maybe placed in quarantine with the rest that don't "follow the SCIENCE"? Or perhaps deported?


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Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: MrWhiskerssammy] #256295
05/23/2021 10:36 AM
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yeah, seems like if you’ve been vaccinated you would be less likely to care if others are…only one local we’ve met so far admits to being vaccinated….doesn’t bother us, as we’re both vax’d

and we were in Princess last night and did well groovin


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Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: 2fingers] #256303
05/23/2021 12:13 PM
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Why you ask? It's because just being fully vaccinated doesn't mean you can't get it and spread it. Wake up. Was just in cole Bay carrefore this morning. Lots of noses peeking out over the masks and some on chins. Employees too. Didn't say anything but kept my distance and I'm fully vaccinated.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256305
05/23/2021 12:31 PM
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List the various vaccinations you’ve had in your life. Have you ever been told that you can pass on whatever disease were vaccinated against? It’s BS to frighten the sheep that you can still spread Covid after vaccination. Where’s the data to support that.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: socamon] #256306
05/23/2021 01:05 PM
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Maybe the data is it is just better being safe than sorry!
George

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: 2fingers] #256310
05/23/2021 01:56 PM
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Actually--NO--they never told us we would be safe. As Scuba said, like any other vaccine, you can still get the virus, maybe a little less critically, but you can still get it. You can also still pass it along to your family and friends even if you are vaccinated. I have the right to my own opinion and that was what I was stating. How you feel about it is immaterial to me. Go where you want and do what you want--as will I.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256317
05/23/2021 03:44 PM
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Yup....I'll take 95% effective over zero protection any day....but that's just me

...and....I kinda reverse relate it to smoking and those who don't believe it will eventually kill them....maybe not.....but, while taking a drag, say they won't get a vaccine because they don't "think" it's safe

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Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: socamon] #256323
05/23/2021 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by socamon
List the various vaccinations you’ve had in your life. Have you ever been told that you can pass on whatever disease were vaccinated against? It’s BS to frighten the sheep that you can still spread Covid after vaccination. Where’s the data to support that.

Might want to did your head out of the sand. It's out there. Not a political thing. It's world wide.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256334
05/23/2021 09:21 PM
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Once vaccinated. While you can still get it you will not have enough to have the ability to spread and you are most likely to have minimal symptoms. Get vaccinated and Live Life!


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Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: Todd] #256335
05/23/2021 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd
Once vaccinated. While you can still get it you will not have enough to have the ability to spread and you are most likely to have minimal symptoms. Get vaccinated and Live Life!

👍

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256339
05/23/2021 11:04 PM
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You didn’t answer my question. What proof is there that once vaccinated you can still spread it?

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: socamon] #256340
05/23/2021 11:27 PM
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I'll answer your question with an equally valid one, "What proof do you have that once vaccinated you CAN'T still spread it?"

We have never had a SARS Coronavirus pandemic before. We know a lot more than we did a year ago, but vaccines have only been around for about 6 months. Comparing it to other vaccinations may seem logical, but is mostly irrelevant from a factual point-of-view.

So far the anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that being vaccinated helps prevent any transmission, too. However, with all the new variants out there the medical community is suggesting that there is no harm in being cautious until they can be more sure. Also, referring to others as "sheep" and their opinions as "B/S" is totally unhelpful. Let's all at least try to be civil with each other.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256343
05/24/2021 04:24 AM
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Yes Socamen, you ned to be doin more Limn and listening to Canuck.
Everyone calm down. Get your vaccine and move on.
Like you got Diptheria, Measles and all that other stuff as kids.
Everybody get a grip.
This is a public health issue, not a constitutional issue.
We all calm, vaccinated and safe. That's what matters.
Peace out!

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256350
05/24/2021 06:52 AM
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Not for nothing, but if one is working with the public, one should be vaccinated or wear PPE at all times while inter acting with the public!!!


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Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256357
05/24/2021 08:23 AM
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Exact comparisons are hard to make, but it is pretty clear that fatality rates from covid are around 10 times the rate for flu, at least the versions that have been around recently. The fantasy that covid is less dangerous is just that.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256358
05/24/2021 08:26 AM
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About time this one gets closed since it's really gone down hill.

Re: Dutch business close 11pm to 6am [Re: SXMScubaman] #256364
05/24/2021 09:01 AM
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Agreed. For future reference, as Canuck said "Also, referring to others as "sheep" and their opinions as "B/S" is totally unhelpful. Let's all at least try to be civil with each other." And the term "face diaper" is offensive and will not be allowed here.


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