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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: KathyD242424] #266300
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For staying on the French side I would assume you could follow the rule for flying into the Grand Case airport :

(Vaccinated people aged 12 and over traveling to/from France to/from Grand Case:
Must provide proof of honor that they are symptom-free and unaware of having been in contact with a confirmed case of covid-19 in the fourteen days prior to the flight.)

Just read the post about the French requirements. Never new that unvaccinated were not allowed to go to St Martin without isolating for 7 days, assuming I am reading it correctly. So I guess Americans will still need to get a test to stay on French side.

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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: SXMScubaman] #266307
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Why would vaccinated people still pay for insurance. I’d love to see the inflows/outflows of the covid insurance to date. How many people have actually filed a claim ,however small, for covid treatment on island.

Unless EHAS gets me superfast, I want to be done with pre-pproval. I want to decide to go to SXM today, walk up to airport, buy a ticket, show my passport as always and of course show my super CDC card and be over all this.


Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: KathyD242424] #266310
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for the french side it reads that countries in the green zone just need proof of double vax. Orange can't even go to french side if aren't vaccinated right?

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: PelicanPirate] #266311
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Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
Why would vaccinated people still pay for insurance. I’d love to see the inflows/outflows of the covid insurance to date. How many people have actually filed a claim ,however small, for covid treatment on island.

Unless EHAS gets me superfast, I want to be done with pre-pproval. I want to decide to go to SXM today, walk up to airport, buy a ticket, show my passport as always and of course show my super CDC card and be over all this.


Because if you test positive when you get tested for your return to USA you will need that insurance while in quarantine.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: SXMScubaman] #266312
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Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
Why would vaccinated people still pay for insurance. I’d love to see the inflows/outflows of the covid insurance to date. How many people have actually filed a claim ,however small, for covid treatment on island.

Unless EHAS gets me superfast, I want to be done with pre-pproval. I want to decide to go to SXM today, walk up to airport, buy a ticket, show my passport as always and of course show my super CDC card and be over all this.


Because if you test positive when you get tested for your return to USA you will need that insurance while in quarantine.

The insurance and the coverage it provides is a joke.


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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: SXMScubaman] #266313
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Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
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You'll probably still need to apply through EHAS and pay for the insurance. I assume you'll need to say what vaccine you got as only approved ones will qualify. A list was provided in the news release.


Your CDC vaccine card should state which vaccine you received along with the dates. I'm sure they'll want a scan of that card to issue the approval.

Exactly. I wasn't disputing that.


But you said you'd have to "say" what vaccine you got. I seriously doubt that they would be willing to take your word for it.


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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: PelicanPirate] #266314
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Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
Why would vaccinated people still pay for insurance. I’d love to see the inflows/outflows of the covid insurance to date. How many people have actually filed a claim ,however small, for covid treatment on island.

Unless EHAS gets me superfast, I want to be done with pre-pproval. I want to decide to go to SXM today, walk up to airport, buy a ticket, show my passport as always and of course show my super CDC card and be over all this.



I think we all want that, but I, for one, am very excited that I won't have to go through the stress of testing, hoping I get my results and approval in time, and hoping the flight isn't delayed so that I have to do it all again, losing precious vacation time, not to mention money. (sorry for the run-on sentence). This is a huge positive in my mind.

And the insurance is still needed because even vaccinated people can contract covid. If you test positive upon leaving (assuming the US continues to require that for returning citizens), you'll be quarantined on the island for a certain period. My understanding is that the insurance covers this. I imagine the insurance companies are for-profit businesses, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.


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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: GaKaye] #266315
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Originally Posted by GaKaye
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You'll probably still need to apply through EHAS and pay for the insurance. I assume you'll need to say what vaccine you got as only approved ones will qualify. A list was provided in the news release.


Your CDC vaccine card should state which vaccine you received along with the dates. I'm sure they'll want a scan of that card to issue the approval.

Exactly. I wasn't disputing that.


But you said you'd have to "say" what vaccine you got. I seriously doubt that they would be willing to take your word for it.

By "saying " would be on the question on EHAS and your card submission would prove it.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: PelicanPirate] #266318
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Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
Why would vaccinated people still pay for insurance.



Are you talking about the SXM insurance or insurance in general?? With regard to the SXM insurance, you would pay for it because you have no choice, if you want to go to SXM.

If you are talking about insurance in general, because sh*t happens!!!!


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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: KathyD242424] #266320
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Awesome news. We are taking 50th trip since 1977. First in 3 years. Both vaccinated and boostered. Anther hurdle gone for our trip

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: KathyD242424] #266321
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This is great but my wife and are going October 31 and we both have our vaccinations. It appears that I will have to through the hoops to get there.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: KathyD242424] #266323
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We fly out the 23 and back the 30th. Guess we were a week early for this.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: jeepers] #266325
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Originally Posted by jeepers
for the french side it reads that countries in the green zone just need proof of double vax. Orange can't even go to french side if aren't vaccinated right?


The US is currently on the French "orange" zone list of countries, while Canada is currently one of the "green" zone countries.

As I understand it, the restrictions only apply to accommodations on the French side. The hoteliers are expected to enforce it, I believe, but I have no idea if that is actually being done, even though they are technically subject to penalties if they don't. No one is stopped, as far as I am aware, from just visiting the French side, whether from an orange zone or green zone country.

Any Canadian arriving on the island from a Canadian airport as of October 30th will have to be fully-vaccinated to board the plane in any case, under new Government of Canada regulations. So as of November 1st, they will only need a Covid test to reenter Canada, but not to enter SXM. They will just need to complete the EHAS application, submit proof of vaccination and pay for the compulsory insurance. Much easier!

If Canada remains on the French green zone list, then Canadians will only have to show proof of their vaccination status to stay on the French side. If Canada at some point moves back to the French orange zone list, then the same rules will apply to Canadians as currently apply to Americans. None of this has anything to do with staying on the Dutch side.

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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: KathyD242424] #266330
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We arrive on the 10th of November and this is great for us!!!!! dance

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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: Carol_Hill] #266332
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The SXM covid insurance. I get cuz u have too, but why do you have to if vaccinated.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: PelicanPirate] #266333
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Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
The SXM covid insurance. I get cuz u have too, but why do you have to if vaccinated.

Because you can still get COVID even if vaccinated.

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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: kim] #266335
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Originally Posted by kim
Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
The SXM covid insurance. I get cuz u have too, but why do you have to if vaccinated.

Because you came still get COVID even if vaccinated.

A d you can then be a carrier and give it to someone else.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: SXMScubaman] #266337
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Belt and suspenders. Umbrella and raincoat. No wait. Two belts and two suspenders.

Now I’m safe.

I hope there is someone at both ends of my flight to check my belts and suspenders and make sure my tension test results were done with an “approved” tension tester.

After all, would’t want to expose anybody to something.

Maybe we should have an EHAS to check the EHAS. Double bureaucratic approval is safer.

Not just “Double-Good”, “Double Plus Good”.

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There was talk of this back in March in the Daily Herald, we were praying that it came to fruition by this time. This nerve racking testing has us on edge even though we got vaxx in April when we returned from SXM. Congratulations for those traveling on or after November 1srt! Wish us luck!!


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Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: GaKaye] #266341
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Im amazed at how conditioned we have become to these “things”.

I didnt get dengue fever insurance for a 2019 trip to Cambodia and it is endemic. No vaccine. Kids/adults dying.

I got travel insurance with all ailments priced/included.

How much has been collected and did it result in more ICU beds/vents which was the worry to start.



When does this insurance end?

Double Plus Good - not.




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Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Originally Posted by kim
Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
The SXM covid insurance. I get cuz u have too, but why do you have to if vaccinated.

Because you came still get COVID even if vaccinated.

A d you can then be a carrier and give it to someone else.


...and you can't return to the USA with a recent positive test. I think this has all been mentioned already....in this post. Fifteen bucks is not on my list of things to whine about

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agree Boucharda

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i also wonder if and when the protocol is in place what time frame will be allowable to submit to EHAS

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Good point...no need for any timetable for the vac'ed. But I think that will take a month or so to be changed

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BUT!!!! See this!!!!

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Ok, this is almost more of a PITA than the pre-testing!!!!!


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Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
Im amazed at how conditioned we have become to these “things”.

I didnt get dengue fever insurance for a 2019 trip to Cambodia and it is endemic. No vaccine. Kids/adults dying.

I got travel insurance with all ailments priced/included.

How much has been collected and did it result in more ICU beds/vents which was the worry to start.



When does this insurance end?

Double Plus Good - not.




Not the point of MY post at all- but thanks for the diatribe..🙄

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Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
BUT!!!! See this!!!!

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Ok, this is almost more of a PITA than the pre-testing!!!!!



Sorry, not even close.


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Depends on your point of view, I guess.


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Agree with GaKaye. We have been doing this in Ontario (and most other provinces) for awhile now. If you are fully-vaccinated, you show your vaccination certificate or your QR code on your phone. It takes all of a few seconds. No big deal, especially if it helps minimize any Covid spread. Not even close to the hassle of arranging for Covid test within strict time limits to be able to get on a plane.

If you're not fully-vaccinated and have to do a Covid test every 72 hours, then yes, that might be a hassle. However, if you're not fully vaccinated maybe you shouldn't be travelling in the first place. Just my two cents!

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Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
BUT!!!! See this!!!!

Link

Ok, this is almost more of a PITA than the pre-testing!!!!!


No biggie if you are vac'ed....ticket for entry is your vac record

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Im good for taking folks on a tangent or diatribe. Like a bad, unvaxed cabdriver.

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I’d reluctantly rather show my vax card than play online anything with SXM even tho they were decent with their bureacracy.

Does a picture of your vax card suffice on the honor system. Or do we need papers to verify the validity of our papers.

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Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
BUT!!!! See this!!!!

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Ok, this is almost more of a PITA than the pre-testing!!!!!

I see no problem with this for me. We are doing this same thing in WA St starting Monday. I have my Vax Card on my phone so makes it easy.

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As I said, apparently I am by myself on this one.


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Again, if immigration verifies your eligibility to be on the island why does everyone think its OK to keep showing it at every establishment day after day.

Once I get into Disney World, i don't want to keep showing my ticket receipt for every ride.

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Are you using an app to show your card, or, just a photo?

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Photo. That is acceptable in our state as of now.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: PelicanPirate] #266421
10/21/2021 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PelicanPirate
Again, if immigration verifies your eligibility to be on the island why does everyone think its OK to keep showing it at every establishment day after day.

Once I get into Disney World, i don't want to keep showing my ticket receipt for every ride.

Because there are also unvaccinated tourists and residents on island. Just go along with the program or don't go to SXM. Pretty simple.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: SXMScubaman] #266422
10/21/2021 11:33 AM
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Thank you! A photo is easy.

Re: Great News!!! As of 11/1/2021 Vax'ed people just need their Vax card! [Re: NumberCruncher] #266424
10/21/2021 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberCruncher
Thank you! A photo is easy.

And you don't need a WIFI connection to access your photo Gallery.

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