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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: RickandJulie]
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11/28/2021 10:56 AM
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Has anyone heard of any new travel restrictions being imposed because of the Omicron variant? Not for visitors from the US or Canada, they are changing entry requirements for those travelling from The Netherlands.
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: RickandJulie]
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11/28/2021 11:17 AM
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Give it time. I am betting changes will be coming.
J.D.
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: RickandJulie]
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11/28/2021 12:20 PM
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"As of Monday November 29, 2021, all travelers who have visited one of the following African countries within 14 days prior to traveling to Sint Maarten will be denied entry: South Africa, Botswana, Lesotho, Eswatini, Zimbabwe, Namibia and Mozambique. As of Monday December 6, 2021, all fully vaccinated travelers from countries in the very-high risk category will be required to provide a negative 48 hr. PCR or a negative 24 hr. Ag test result. The following countries will be listed in this category the Netherlands, Germany, United Kingdom, Poland, Belgium, Denmark, Czech Republic, Hungary , Norway, Slovakia, Liechtenstein, Austria, Switzerland, Monaco, Bulgaria, Bolivia and Trinidad and Tobago."
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: irina]
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11/28/2021 03:04 PM
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The Netherlands is on the second list, so a pre-entry Covid test will be required as of December 6th. But if anyone from the Netherlands (or any other country) has travelled in any of the restricted African countries in the previous 14-days they will be denied entry as of November 29th.
While I don't like it, I can certainly believe this is happening again, and suspect it will continue to happen, until all countries somehow manage to either get their populations closer to 80 or 85% vaccinated, or reach herd immunity the hard way by actually contracting the virus. We also have to encourage our governments to help get vaccines into the hands of other, less-fortunate, developing countries and find ways to overcome vaccine hesitancy both at home and abroad.
Until that happens, the unvaccinated become a breeding ground for new variants, some of which will potentially be more virulent. This is no different than other pandemics. We were just fortunate due to modern technology and medical knowledge to have developed vaccines sooner, which helps limit infections and deaths. The virus will continue to spread and mutate until there is no one left to infect. As many have said, we may be tired of Covid-19, but it has a lot more patience than most of us.
Last edited by CanuckTravlr; 11/28/2021 03:18 PM.
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: foreversxm]
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11/29/2021 11:47 AM
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Perhaps they are trying to save lives.
Elaine ********************************* God Bless the broken road....
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: Bahston]
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11/29/2021 12:09 PM
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Essentially, what France has done is to say that the same rules which apply to travelers from the US apply to travelers from France. No. It's looks to be more restrictive if coming from France. Did you read the full article I posted?
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: CaribEagle]
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11/29/2021 05:32 PM
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Maybe you should inform the CDC of your findings re: "very mild symptoms" since they are still trying to determine that: It will take a few weeks of testing to know for sure whether the Omicron variant is more transmissible than Delta, and whether it evades the protection offered by natural infection or vaccines. Scientists will also be looking to see if it causes more severe disease or evades the effects of treatments. You may be correct but I do not know the source of your findings... Edit....I do agree that lockdowns do NOT work
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: CaribEagle]
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11/29/2021 05:51 PM
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That would be great and actually not a reason to change any restrictions in place (if any) BUT to have 61 positive tests on just two flights to the Netherlands brings up questions of increased transmissibility and, again, not a major factor in vac'ed people but the jury is out on the rest of mankind. Brings up the question that was/is this a common occurrence on recent flights pre Omicron
I prefer to wait for a statement from OUR CDC vs. one MD in So. Africa.....absolutely could be correct but I will wait
Last edited by boucharda; 11/29/2021 05:52 PM.
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: RickandJulie]
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11/29/2021 06:10 PM
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Agree as do some in high places: The variant is a cause for concern, not a cause for panic.
"We have the best vaccine in the world, the best medicines, the best scientists, and we're learning more every single day," he said Monday. "We'll fight this variant with scientific and knowledgeable actions and speed, not chaos and confusion."
The best protection against Omicron is the vaccine.
Last edited by boucharda; 11/29/2021 06:11 PM.
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: RickandJulie]
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11/30/2021 09:00 AM
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Good job, LESLEY. Hope all is good.
Respectfully,
pat
"Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them."
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Re: Here We Go Again?
[Re: Kennys]
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11/30/2021 11:54 AM
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Going for our booster vaccines tomorrow . Good for you. Now talk all your friends into getting vaccinated too if not already.
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