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DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? #270019
11/29/2021 02:38 AM
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Hello all!

I'm looking for info re the most current experiences getting from Canada (via the US) into the BVI. Over my 30+ years of visiting I've pretty much done every itinerary imaginable but with all the changes thanks to Covid things are just a weeee (!!) bit different these days. I've been following here and on the BVI Facebook group pages since I booked our trip a few months back but the protocols change so frequently I'm hoping for the latest input before I make my final flight choices.

Here's my current routing ...

Vancouver > DFW > MIA > SJU on American, followed by SJU > EIS on InterCaribbean. Good connections with the exception of the SJU > EIS which has a 4 hour layover. The other caveat to this is that IC does not have a baggage handling agreement with AA so we'll have to get our bags after we clear customs, go thru immigration and then find the IC ticket counter in the airport to check in and get our bags checked through. A bit of a hassle for sure (especially after how long it takes to get to SJU from Van. To boot we aren't exactly the lightest packers lol) and I'm also not sure what the Covid protocol is for this situation - if we're going into the main part of the airport to check in it seems possible we'll have to do some sort of Covid vaccine check? We have lots of time but it just adds another layer of 'stuff' to deal with.

The other option is to fly Van > LAX > MIA > STT and ferry over. This routing arrives into STT at 1pm so lots of time to get the 5pm ferry without stressing. Done this a zillion times and actually enjoy arriving this way (sipping a cold Carib on the upper deck cruising thru the islands is a great way to start things off!) but when I booked back in August the ferry system and the Covid management was very up in the air and I opted to fly via SJU instead. Now that I'm seeing the ferry schedules on an even keel and the Covid protocols more consistent I'm thinking this may be my better option. I can change my flites without any penalties so it's all about what will be the least stressful and smoothest way to go!

Sooooooo ... recent fellow BVI bound travellers ... any comments on the 2 options? Your feedback is MUCH appreciated!

THANK YOU!!
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Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270021
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Can you get to JFK without a stop or minimal stopping? They have a nonstop AM flight into STT that we always take that gets us in around 12:45 (in a perfect world of course). Then ferry or water taxi over.

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270022
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Where is your final destination in the BVI?

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270032
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I recommend flying. When you arrive in SJU you won't have to do customs/immigration. As you say, you will need to collect your bags and recheck them but it's easy and you have plenty of time. No test or portal required for in-transit passengers in SJU Just show the national guard your IC flight information and they will direct you up to the ticket counters to check your bags. There is a great wine bar at the beginning of B concourse that is easy to kill time at and they have great Puerto Rican food.

I prefer to fly for a couple of reasons. No USVI portal to deal with, the arrival is much more organized and efficient at the airport, if there is a flight issue you have options but no options with the ferry, I'd rather get stuck in San Juan than St Thomas.


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Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270053
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We were going to try EIS this trip but Delta changed flight schedules into SJU and made it impossible. We flew through STT again instead and the portal was super easy to his trip ( Binax eMed test results) and we had approval in three hours. Had a private charter to EIS with Island Birds and it was seamless - Through EIS in ten minutes.

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270077
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We are firmly in the SJU camp having had many problems (e.g. stuck) at STT through the years....as Jason says lots more options at SJU

DCA-SJU (Jet Blue)-EIS (Island Birds)

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: skipdastraw] #270096
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Hi there ... I Used to fly on the non-stop Cathay Pacific red eye from Vancouver to JFK then pick up the NS flite to STT. in the morning. It was amazing - 2 flites all the way from the Pacific NthWest to the islands! Unfortunately Cathay discontinued the flight in late 2019 and the other options all include a stopover over or a stay over :-(.

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: RatmansWife] #270097
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First stop is Cane Garden Bay, home-away-from-home! :-)

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: JasonHelmbrecht] #270098
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Thanks Jason. Now that you've confirmed the process at SJU I'll stick with my itinerary per your recommendation vs going via STT :-).

One other quick question ... do you happen to know if Silver has a baggage handling agreement with American? I know they retained a partnership since they took over Seaborne so I'm thinking they may. If that was the case, I'd def look at taking their late afternoon flight vs IC.

Thanks again!
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Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270102
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Originally Posted by BVIslandGirl
Thanks Jason. Now that you've confirmed the process at SJU I'll stick with my itinerary per your recommendation vs going via STT :-).

One other quick question ... do you happen to know if Silver has a baggage handling agreement with American? I know they retained a partnership since they took over Seaborne so I'm thinking they may. If that was the case, I'd def look at taking their late afternoon flight vs IC.

Thanks again!
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Sorry, I've lost track of the baggage agreements since I almost only fly Delta.


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Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270108
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In May, I recall our luggage transferred from American to Seaborne. We've made so many trips on so many carriers since Irma it's hard to recall, and it took SJU a while to get their systems back running.

Next week we're flying American and transferring to Cape Air on coupons. AA confirmed that luggage transfer is supposed to be possible, but apparently is not yet supported by their software, although United and Jet Blue can do that.

Another advantage of one ticket is that, should you get held up along the line, the carrier has to put you up.

InterCaribbean doesn't partner with any of the US carriers.

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270259
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Hello from a fellow Vancouverite!

I just did the trip for the first time, and man, it was brutal. We transited 7 airports in total, with many delays…in fact, I don't think a single of our flights left on time. Our trip there was Vancouver > Dallas > Austin > San Juan > Beef Island. Trip back was Beef Island > Antigua > Toronto > Vancouver.

The flight out of Vancouver was delayed so much that we wouldn't have been able to make our connection in Dallas, which resulted in us having to leave and arrive a day late. On the way back our flight from Antigua was delayed by about two hours and the line at customs in Pearson was so long that there was no way in hell we could have made our connection even if the flight hadn't been delayed. This turned out to be a blessing as we spent the night at a hotel by the airport which broke up what would have been a supremely exhausting journey.

If the travel situation and connections don't improve, I'm not sure I'll be going back…

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: BVIslandGirl] #270262
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cdc-expected-require-negative-covid-19-test-day/story?id=81491308

"The Biden administration is preparing to implement new travel guidelines that would require proof of a negative COVID-19 test within one day of flying into the U.S., including for vaccinated people, a spokesperson from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed."

I'd be reconsidering my travel plans right about now… : (

Re: DECISIONS DECISIONS - BVI via STT or SJU/EIS?? [Re: bernk] #270273
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Originally Posted by bernk
I'd be reconsidering my travel plans right about now… : (

it's easy enough to travel with a proctored test and take it an hour before a flight if that's what they required. Doesn't seem like much of an issue to me.


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I'm not sure why more don't do the proctored test on their boat or villa. Pretty much a no brainer.

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That's what we did, and it was extremely easy. That said, I anticipate the problem is going to be availability of the tests. The new requirements are going to increase demand, and supply has already been an issue at times.

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Originally Posted by tradewinds
I'm not sure why more don't do the proctored test on their boat or villa. Pretty much a no brainer.


We don't have Internet, so there's that! We'll have to cadge a signal somewhere. We have cell data on our phones, but that's iffy.

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Can you go to the Loose Mongoose or Jeremy’s Kitchen?

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Originally Posted by MKGrey
That's what we did, and it was extremely easy. That said, I anticipate the problem is going to be availability of the tests. The new requirements are going to increase demand, and supply has already been an issue at times.


I was hoping to hold out as they said they will release a later dated batch in mid Dec...the batches we got 2 weeks ago expired in Nov with a note that said they were good for another 3 months...

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Jason, we are doing the same dance in SJU that BVIslandGirl describes, coming into SJU on one airline (Jet Blue in our case) and then jumping on a separate booking for InterCaribbean. The difference is, we will only have a scheduled layover of just under 2 hours in SJU (one hour 50 minutes). Assuming no flight delays, think that's enough time to collect bags and get checked into InterCaribbean? Thanks for the advice!

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It should be if your inbound flight is on time. Make sure your InterCaribbean reservation includes your Known Traveler Number if you have it so you get TSA Pre-check. It can make a big difference in the security line at SJU.


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Hey Jason ... re the Proctored Tests, is it Abbott that use? Just looking at the options online and they seem to be strong.

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Originally Posted by BVIslandGirl
Hey Jason ... re the Proctored Tests, is it Abbott that use? Just looking at the options online and they seem to be strong.

That's what I've used. There is another brand that seems to be just as successful. Don't recall but I think someone posted a link here recently.


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Originally Posted by RatmansWife
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I'm not sure why more don't do the proctored test on their boat or villa. Pretty much a no brainer.


We don't have Internet, so there's that! We'll have to cadge a signal somewhere. We have cell data on our phones, but that's iffy.


Cell data will be fine. Just position yourself in range of the USVI towers the last day.
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Originally Posted by Skindeep

Jason, we are doing the same dance in SJU that BVIslandGirl describes, coming into SJU on one airline (Jet Blue in our case) and then jumping on a separate booking for InterCaribbean. The difference is, we will only have a scheduled layover of just under 2 hours in SJU (one hour 50 minutes). Assuming no flight delays, think that's enough time to collect bags and get checked into InterCaribbean? Thanks for the advice!


That is cutting it pretty close. Many of the airlines there require you to check bags at least 60 minutes prior. It’s going to take you 20 to 30 minutes to collect your bags and another 10 minutes to get to the check in counter. It is likely however that JetBlue might be early or Intercaribbean late. The gotcha is that if you don’t make the flight and the later flights are full you could get stuck. This assumes they will allow you as a goodwill gesture to use the tickets on a later flight.
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Originally Posted by Skindeep

Jason, we are doing the same dance in SJU that BVIslandGirl describes, coming into SJU on one airline (Jet Blue in our case) and then jumping on a separate booking for InterCaribbean. The difference is, we will only have a scheduled layover of just under 2 hours in SJU (one hour 50 minutes). Assuming no flight delays, think that's enough time to collect bags and get checked into InterCaribbean? Thanks for the advice!


JetBlue partners with Cape Air. If you buy both flights on the same ticket, you only pay baggage fees once, they transfer your bags and they have to put you up if you miss your flight. Arriving with a small number of other passengers means you are likely to get through C&I faster, too.

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Originally Posted by JasonHelmbrecht
Originally Posted by BVIslandGirl
Hey Jason ... re the Proctored Tests, is it Abbott that use? Just looking at the options online and they seem to be strong.

That's what I've used. There is another brand that seems to be just as successful. Don't recall but I think someone posted a link here recently.


I posted a link to 2 places and ordered from both, Emed and Optum. They are exact same proctored test but order from Emed as it is cheaper. I just put ordering for myself on the Emed site as it saved me from having to enter 2 other names.

They are using March tests kits which expire in November '21 but have an attached CDC note saying they are good for another 3 months (Feb '22). They are trying to go through old stock. They indicated maybe later in December they will have newer stock so you may want to wait to order if you don't need.

https://www.emed.com/airline-travel

I plan to bring extras down in case one of us tests positive and needs to hang around until Santa comes...

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Originally Posted by JasonHelmbrecht
Originally Posted by BVIslandGirl
Hey Jason ... re the Proctored Tests, is it Abbott that use? Just looking at the options online and they seem to be strong.

That's what I've used. There is another brand that seems to be just as successful. Don't recall but I think someone posted a link here recently.

Here is a link to the Ellume test for travel.
https://www.ellumecovidtest.com/travel#international-travel

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Originally Posted by RatmansWife
Originally Posted by Skindeep

Jason, we are doing the same dance in SJU that BVIslandGirl describes, coming into SJU on one airline (Jet Blue in our case) and then jumping on a separate booking for InterCaribbean. The difference is, we will only have a scheduled layover of just under 2 hours in SJU (one hour 50 minutes). Assuming no flight delays, think that's enough time to collect bags and get checked into InterCaribbean? Thanks for the advice!


JetBlue partners with Cape Air. If you buy both flights on the same ticket, you only pay baggage fees once, they transfer your bags and they have to put you up if you miss your flight. Arriving with a small number of other passengers means you are likely to get through C&I faster, too.


What is important is that JetBlue owns the problem. If you miss connect they must put you on a later flight and if needed pay for your hotel as long as the cause was not weather. If you book different reservations and miss the flight no one owns the problem and your connection ticket is no longer valid. Generally however they will let you standby for later flights as a good well gesture.

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Do I understand correctly that the rules for entering the USVI by ferry or water taxi still allow the 5 day testing window, in spite of the new US rules for air arrival? And that once in the USVI one does not need to retest for the "domestic" flight back to the US mainland?

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